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To: Saintgermain

If by chance you are interested in Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO’s) and what is real and what is not, home grown; you may want to watch this video with Steven Greer. It is a multifaceted subject and by necessity can’t be explained in just a few words so it is a little bit long, but it is worth watching.

https://youtu.be/p2hk8Qp8dd0?t=14

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It always amazes me that both sides (I am over simplifying it by suggesting there are just two sides but still) claim that the other side are wrong because THEY are putting out disinformation to muddy the waters, gas light, and diminish their cases.

Steven Greer would suggest that guys like Alozondo or Pope are just out there for disinformation purposes, and guys like them, I am sure, would say the same about him.

I have a very big problem with the idea that we need to expose are ultra secret programs and technologies because they are supposedly being run by very bad people, whereas my personal fear is that they people who want the programs and technologies exposed are probably (secretly) America haters and don’t like that the US could potentially have a massive competitive advantage, or at least they need to assess the level of advancement because that’s what foreign intelligence does with it’s enemies. I’m more prone to trust that the compartmentalization is necessary to protect the programs from politicians, and for good reason. We (myself very much included) tend to complain about the power of the ‘deep state’ which is just a phrase that blankly covers all un-elected bureaucrats because they cannot be held accountable by voters like politicians can. However, in a case like this, where national security can be exploited by politicians for their own gain. Just look at some of the idiots and S.O.B.s who have been elected to office in our country over the last 25 years (see my signature). Are you telling me that they wouldn’t try to exploit these programs for their own power or political desires?


261 posted on 12/19/2023 10:27:46 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: z3n

Are you telling me that they wouldn’t try to exploit these programs for their own power or political desires?

You got a good point, technology can be used for either good or bad, unfortunately we have way too many people in power with a warped mind, who would use whatever they could lay their hands on to control their fellow man.


263 posted on 12/19/2023 10:52:13 AM PST by Saintgermain
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To: z3n

The problem with any secrecy is we don’t know what we don’t know.

That leaves the door wide open for bad actors to act badly without accountability.

I believe the Wilson/Davis memo is legit—and that a large number of members of Congress—both sides of the aisle—agree.

https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/114761/documents/HHRG-117-IG05-20220517-SD001.pdf

What this means is that the “secrecy” got to a point where there are no constitutional checks and balances at all.

That is what some of us call the “breakaway civilization”—some public and private officials who started to play the game by their own rules—and had the power to make it stick.


265 posted on 12/19/2023 11:26:30 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Obey or get canceled.)
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