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.22 Long Rifle Cartridge, as Introduced and 125 Years Later
Gun Watch ^ | 18 December, 2023 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/18/2023 3:56:30 AM PST by marktwain

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The performance of the .22 Long Rifle, as introduced in 1887, with five grains of black powder and an outside lubricated, heeled 40 grain bullet, is virtually identical with Standard Velocity .22 Long Rifle cartridges today.
1 posted on 12/18/2023 3:56:30 AM PST by marktwain
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Ten shot group, fired before February 7, 1889, at 40 yards from rest, with Stevens single shot rifle and apature sights. A very early batch of .22 Long Rifle cartridges. 5 grains black powder, 40 grain bullet. The first few batches of .22 Long Rifle cartridges were not crimped.

2 posted on 12/18/2023 4:00:13 AM PST by marktwain
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If I had to list my firearms from most useful to least,10\22 would top the list.


3 posted on 12/18/2023 4:13:20 AM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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I kinda like my pump gallery Gun. Lots of fun.


4 posted on 12/18/2023 4:19:32 AM PST by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp, )
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When I was a kid, I had a Marlin lever action .22. Beautiful gun. Walnut stock, brass trigger, eyes for a sling, scope mount. The scope mount allowed for use of the iron sights. I shot that thing so much I could free hand shoot hickory nuts out of a tree with scope or sights. I harvested squirrels every fall for my Grandmother.

Never considered it a defense weapon, but it is still the first gun I grab for anything smaller than deer. Don’t need a big bang if you are quiet and can make a button hole anywhere you want.


5 posted on 12/18/2023 4:28:52 AM PST by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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IMO, they are the two-bits of Exhange/barter in our coming economy.


6 posted on 12/18/2023 4:38:05 AM PST by Gaffer
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I have a 10/22 and a Marlin 60. Both shoot the same but there is a likeable difference on the 60 with its tube magazine vs a hang down mag. Also, there have been more Marlin 60s sold than 10/22s


7 posted on 12/18/2023 4:40:32 AM PST by Gaffer
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My squirrel gun, a Remington Speedmaster, is deadly! I have driven nails with it and shot squirrels that were running in the tree tops with it.


8 posted on 12/18/2023 4:49:57 AM PST by weezel
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That might be a matter of preference.
If I recall correctly the Marlin came out first and was less expensive.
I’ll take the speed of reloading a rotating magazine compared to the tube.
Also easy to upgrade the trigger group.
The ten round magazine sets flush with the stock.


9 posted on 12/18/2023 4:58:33 AM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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Yeah..I understand. And the ruger 10/22 has MANY variation capabilities like takedown, etc. But, my old marlin has a suffcient capacity tube and you don’t have to go routing around for a magazine to pop in. About the only thing I’d want now on my 60 is a 1/2-28 thread for the silencer.


10 posted on 12/18/2023 5:03:35 AM PST by Gaffer
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I still have my old Glenfield (Marlin) Model 20, 7-shot clip, bolt action. I bought it brand new in 1977. Still my best little gun, and like you said, ideal for making button holes!


11 posted on 12/18/2023 5:07:32 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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Not knocking the Marlin.
Like I said it is affordable. I also agree it is accurate.
This the only rifle me and my best bud had growing up.
Probably shot the rifling out of it it was used so much.
I’ll have to call him and see if he still has it.


12 posted on 12/18/2023 5:09:52 AM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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Speed masters are very accurate.
One of the most accurate semi-autos I have shot.


13 posted on 12/18/2023 5:11:23 AM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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I was discharged from the Marine Corps (the first time) in June, 1969. As my last action as an active duty sergeant, I bought a .22LR Armalite AR-7 Survival Rifle for $25 from the MCAS El Toro PX.

It was designed by Eugene Stoner and it disassembles into its plastic stock and I have seen one Marine carrying one aboard a MAC flight without any interruption, because the Loadmaster assumed that he was just carrying a plastic stock all by itself.

I carried that light, reliable 8-shot semiauto .22 on all of my hikes up into the mountains and have fired well over 3,000 rounds through it and it has been the most useful, handiest, - and one of the most accurate - weapons I have ever owned. The more recent copies have not been up to the quality or dependability of that original Costa Mesa AR-7 - the Charter Arms version jammed a lot and the parts never fit easily inside its stock and the Henry version has a plastic-clad barrel instead of the aluminum-clad version and a weird red plastic front sight,

Still have my original!

14 posted on 12/18/2023 5:12:33 AM PST by Chainmail (How do I feel about ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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Shot my first rabbit with a .22 short when I was about ten with my Dad standing next to me. He could spot rabbits like a laser beam and wouldn’t even bother with a gun, using a broomstick and sneaking up on them instead.


15 posted on 12/18/2023 5:12:49 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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Last time I did an inventory we had around 10,000 or so Remington Golden hollow points and a couple thousand more from different makers.

We even have 50 .22 tracers.

L


16 posted on 12/18/2023 5:15:43 AM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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The world would be a better place if the care and maintenance of 1022s, along with gun safety, were taught in public schools.


17 posted on 12/18/2023 5:27:07 AM PST by JusPasenThru (ESG is a hunting license on Republicans.)
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The Appleseed program should be mandatory.


18 posted on 12/18/2023 5:31:11 AM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
I shoot my Remington 582, tube feed, bolt action multiple times a week during chippy season using # 12 bird shot and with a 12 inch add on "choke/barrel extender" . I've had this gun since the 60s, and it is amazing with its reliability {but most bolt action rifles are super reliable}.

Using the home made choke, I can reach out about 40' with good accuracy and killing power.

Any thing further than that is a no go since the kill rate is too low and I don't want to just wound the critters.

19 posted on 12/18/2023 5:32:33 AM PST by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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I’ve got my dad’s Remington Model 41 Targetmaster single shot bolt action .22 that his father bought for him circa 1936. He was expected to provide game for the family. He shot a lot of .22 shorts, bought .22 LR when they could afford it. He killed a lot of rabbits, squirrels and he shot wood ducks as they paddled in the creek, this near a spot where the creek would bring them close to shore after he had shot them.


20 posted on 12/18/2023 5:57:43 AM PST by Roadrunner383 (m)
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