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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Let try this another way

What is the solution here? You want to stand in judgement. How about instead tell us what you think Israel should be doing?


10 posted on 10/19/2023 2:22:44 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: MNJohnnie
What is the solution here? You want to stand in judgement. How about instead tell us what you think Israel should be doing?

Advocating for every single Jew and Palestinian to convert to Christianity and kneel before the name of Jesus, because that's the only way peace will ever actually reign.

14 posted on 10/19/2023 2:27:42 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: MNJohnnie
What is the solution here?

The solution is to eliminate the capacity, and the will, to wage war of extermination against Israel. Then, find some way towards peaceful coexistence after the will to war is gone. The first part of that (eliminate the capacity to make war) is going on now.

What comes next is very much an open question. If Hamas is destroyed, the Palestinian Authority will be expected to step up but are they truly capable of maintaining order? They have been degraded, fat and lazy by their own corruption and frankly they are not quite one mind themselves. Israel essentially still has to keep the radicals in the West Bank in check even though the PA is supposed to do that under the Oslo deal. Hezbullah is now facing a potentially existential crisis and that makes them way more unpredictable and potentially irrational (suicidal). Lebanon should deal with them, but unlikely. It's entirely possible we will see some forms of reoccupation for a while - what shape and form that will take is unpredictable. I doubt Israel will want to occupy the Gaza population. They may keep a firmer grip on the West Bank. It has been floated in years past that Jordan should take administrative control over the West Bank, but that's also unlikely.

Jared Kushner tried to assemble, with a $50 billion opening offer, some sort of plan - I think part of his plan was to help alleviate Gaza crowding by 99 year lease a few hundred sq miles of the Sinai (which is about 23,000 sq miles in size) to develop an airport and seaport and homes and industry for Palestinians and Egyptians to benefit, with Jordanian investment included and involvement in the West Bank with an eye towards a final map of two states for Israel and Palestinians. It never went far, but got us the Abraham Accords. Before that, there were plans to connect Gaza to the West bank by carving a rail and road corridor (sunken, not elevated) but Ramallah didn't want that, Ramallah is afraid of Hamas. And... if it isn't complicated enough, there are what 1-2 million self-described Palestinians living in Lebanon expecting some place to go? Where? Not Gaza obviously too crowded already. And the people of the West Bank feel NIMBY about that idea too.

20 posted on 10/19/2023 2:44:33 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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