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Global Alarm: Ukraine’s Alleged Involvement in Sudan Raises Fears of Escalation Toward WWIII
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Posted on 09/20/2023 9:28:59 AM PDT by davikkm

A Disturbing Development: Ukraine’s Alleged Involvement in Sudan Sparks Global Concern

In a deeply unsettling turn of events, reports have emerged of Ukraine’s potential role in attacks against the Wagner Group in Sudan, a move that raises alarm bells about a potential escalation towards a global conflict.

According to CNN, citing an undisclosed Ukrainian military source, Ukrainian intelligence services may have orchestrated a series of drone strikes and a ground operation targeting a Wagner-backed militia near Sudan’s capital. This startling revelation signifies that the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine has transcended its original boundaries, extending far beyond the front lines.

This development underscores the gravity of the situation, as it hints at a broader and more complex geopolitical landscape. The prospect of Ukraine’s involvement in a region far removed from its immediate vicinity raises questions about the global repercussions of such actions. The specter of a larger conflict, even a world war, looms ominously in the background, amplifying concerns among nations and international observers.

The situation demands careful scrutiny and diplomatic efforts to prevent further escalation, as the world watches anxiously, hoping to avert the dire consequences of a widening conflict.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: russia; sudan; ukraine; wagnergroup
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To: pierrem15
while Russia is apparently free to invade its neighbors, foment coups and have its mercenaries operate wherever it wants.

Bosnia, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Afghanistan, Panama, Syria, Niger, Yemen have entered the chat.....

21 posted on 09/20/2023 10:50:07 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: pierrem15

“ So we just let Russia take over Ukraine? And when Moscow goes after Estonia or the other Baltics, we just roll over for that, too?”

Frankly it’s none of our business. Who is coming to help us if China rolls in? No one. It looks like Ukraine needed straightening out anyway. Nazis, money laundering, human trafficking, Burisma, bad stuff. Why should we come to their rescue? If anything it should have been us who went in there to clean things up, but our politicians are in it up to their eyebrows, too. Sorry, not sorry. Russia did this. We did Iraq and Afghanistan. Somebody’s always intervening somewhere.


22 posted on 09/20/2023 10:55:06 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: PGR88
a) the first Iraq War and the Somalian intervention (like Korea) were UN authorized;

b) Afghanistan had two phases: i) we aided the Afghans against the Soviets; ii) Afghanistan was a cobelligerent with al Qaida against the US.

c) Niger was always the preserve of the French;

d) In Yemen the Houthis were sponsored by the Iranians and the war was conducted by the Saudis (not us) and the local government against the Houthis;

e) Libya was started by the French and British.

f) Bosnia was an outgrowth of Germany's decision to recognize Croatia's independence for domestic political reasons despite the US warning the Germans that doing so would provoke a civil war. The US was dragged kicking and screaming into that conflict.

No matter what cases you cite, the US (unlike Russia) has not annexed any territory by force since the Spanish American War, with the exception of former Japanese colonies handed over in trust after WWII.

The moral equivalency argument stinks as badly now as it did in the 80s.

23 posted on 09/20/2023 11:00:41 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: bk1000
Having been dragged into two World Wars through events in Europe and in the Pacific, we decided that it was more prudent to build an alliance structure to defend ourselves and prevent another one. What has supposedly changed?

My other point is that if you think our interventions are the same as Russia's when we are not annexing territory, then I simply can't argue with that degree of moral obtuseness. If you were to reply, "that's how others see it," that's either just silly moral relativism or it's irrelevant. The only legitimate questions are whether it is prudent and is it right: what others think about it is irrelevant. We have pursued wars that were imprudently conducted (Vietnam, Iraq II, Afghanistan) but I can't think of any post-WWII that weren't right.

24 posted on 09/20/2023 11:09:55 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15
I can't think of any post-WWII that weren't right.

How about bombing mostly civilians in Serbia for 75 days from 15,000 feet?

25 posted on 09/20/2023 11:13:43 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Freee-dame
The Serbian government, like the Russian, promoted the murder, rape and looting of 10s of thousands as one of its principles of political legitimacy and self-aggrandizement. The Serbs didn't seem to mind as long as they were winning.

Read up on Serbia's behavior in the Balkan Wars of pre-WWI Europe. Little has changed in Serbian behavior.

26 posted on 09/20/2023 11:29:08 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15
c) Niger was always the preserve of the French;

Your list of explanations and justifications for US/NATO invasions and color-revolutions of scores of countries is truly pathetic. Its clear to me you and the Zeepers get paid by the post.

but your justification for France in Niger and a 1000-man US drone-base there is truly ridiculous.

As you would say: "Ukraine has always been the preserve of the Russians"

27 posted on 09/20/2023 11:40:40 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88
I simply meant that France has always been the primary intervener in Niger: it was a French colony and is France's main source of uranium. The introduction of US troops to chase Islamic extremists is recent, and they have not intervened in local politics.

You're simply engaged in a five-years old's sophistry of saying all countries intervene, so we're the same as Russia, which is like saying a man and a horse are the same because they're mammals.

I would assume you are not entirely devoid of intelligence, so if you have an argument to make above name calling and false moral equivalences for why the US should not assist Ukraine, you should make it.

28 posted on 09/20/2023 12:09:25 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15

blah blah blah

don’t try to avoid it

“Niger has always been the purview of France”

LOL! I guess Russia can say the same thing about Ukraine.

Sad!


29 posted on 09/20/2023 12:50:55 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88
It's simply a fact that Niger was a French colony and its governments were long supported by the French Foreign legion.

Last I checked, the Foreign Legion is not a US unit.

And, as usual, like most Russia supporters, all you can do is grunt and make noises.

30 posted on 09/20/2023 1:00:39 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15
It's simply a fact that Niger was a French colony and its governments were long supported by the French Foreign legion.

Its simply a fact that Ukraine was part of Russia (for many hundreds of years) and its governments were long supported by Russia.

Keep digging, pal.

31 posted on 09/20/2023 1:12:56 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88
You are begging the question: you asserted the presence of US forces in Niger was analogous to that of Russia in Ukraine.

I am not justifying France's colonization of Niger, merely pointing out that your analogy is false, because the colonial power in Niger was France not the US.

32 posted on 09/20/2023 6:26:29 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: davikkm

The story is BS because Russia is backing the legit government in Sudan.


33 posted on 04/18/2024 6:28:53 PM PDT by NorseViking
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