Roman-era aqueduct collapses in central Israel

Ynet News ^ | 8/18/23 | Ynet Staff

[Larry Lucido]

REG: Yeah. All right, Stan. Don’t labour the point. And what have they ever given us in return?!

XERXES: The aqueduct?

REG: What?

XERXES: The aqueduct.

REG: Oh. Yeah, yeah. They did give us that. Uh, that’s true. Yeah.

COMMANDO #3: And the sanitation.

LORETTA: Oh, yeah, the sanitation, Reg. Remember what the city used to be like?

REG: Yeah. All right. I’ll grant you the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the Romans have done.

MATTHIAS: And the roads.

REG: Well, yeah. Obviously the roads. I mean, the roads go without saying, don’t they? But apart from the sanitation, the aqueduct, and the roads—

[nwrep]

Life of Brian?

[SunkenCiv]

;^)

[Paladin2]

Now THAT was an actual investment in infrastructure, as opposed to most of what the gov’ts has built these days.

[freedomjusticeruleoflaw]

Global warming

[Salamander]

You rebuild it

[Red Badger]

“I told them it wouldn’t last.” - Brian Williams.......................

[SJackson]

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[Cronos]

Actually, Hadrian did start off as a "friend" of the Jews (there was no "Israel" and hadn't been one for 800 years).

The two main reasons for the revolt were
1. the aftermath of the KITOS war (the 2nd Jewish-Roman war from 115 to 117 AD) - when Jewish fanatics massacred gentiles in Cyprus and Cyrene (they completed killed off everyone in Cyrene)

2. Hadrian rebuilding Jerusalem -- Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD, the temple burnt to the ground (as Jesus prophesied in the Olivet discourse in Matthew and Luke)

Interestingly - during the Bar Khokbha revolt -> the kingdom of Israel was re-established but temporarily

Blue is the restored Israel -- the era of the redemption of Israel was announced, contracts were signed and a large quantity of Bar Kokhba Revolt coinage was struck over foreign coins.

Note that Simon Bar Kochkba was considered the Jewish Messiah, hence his "bar Kochkba" i.e. "son of the Star" or "Son of God"

[Cronos]

What have the Romans,
what have the Romans,
what have the Romans ever done for us?

The aqueduct.
What?
...they, they gave us the aqueduct...

Yes, they did give us that, that’s true
And sanitation Yes, that too
The aqueduct I’ll grant is one
thing the Romans may have done
And the roads, now they’re all new
And the great wines too

Well, apart from the wines and fermentation,
And the canals for navigation
Public health for all the nation
Apart from those, which are a plus,
what have the Romans ever done for us?

What have the Romans,
what have the Romans,
what have the Romans ever done for us?

The baths.
What?
...the public baths...
Oh, yes, yes...

The public baths are a great delight,
and it’s safe to walk in the streets at night.
Cheese and medicine, irrigation,
Roman law and education
the circus for our delectation
and the gladiation

Well, apart from medicine, irrigation,
health, roads, cheese and education,
baths and the Circus Maximus,
what have the Romans ever done for us?

What have the Romans,
what have the Romans,
what have the Romans ever done for us?

Brought peace.
Oh, shut up!

[SunkenCiv]

lol

[Yardstick]

I blame that scruffy looking shrub.

[SunkenCiv]

Hadrian was a pedophile (after his catamite Antinoos died in the Nile, he had a city built at the site named after him, had him 'deified', and set up places of worship all over the Roman Empire), and despised the Jews in part because he considered circumcision to be self-mutilation. Throughout his reign he showed that he backed pagan Hellenism and supported the destruction of Judaism.

[Cronos]

Need to go back to reference where I read that Hadrian was easier on the Jews and wanted to rebuild Jerusalem.

[SunkenCiv]

In 66 AD, the Romans did nothing when Greeks in Alexandria Egypt massacred (burning some of them alive) local Jews. That was just one of the atrocities that led to the Roman War (Josephus’ Jewish War) that culminated in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.

Years went by. Hadrian didn’t want to rebuild it, he wanted to replace it. His first bang-up idea was to build a temple to Jupiter on the site of the destroyed Temple, and that was the precipitating event in the Bar Kokhba revolt.

After smashing the Jews again in that war, he had Aelia Capitolina built over the ruins of Jerusalem, and banished the Jewish population from the city.

The Romans had tried to stop the long practice of the Temple Tax. After the Temple was destroyed, Rome continued to collect the tax but kept the money, in an additional “**** you” to the Jews. As Michael Grant notes in his book “The Jews in the Roman Empire”, at their peak, which corresponds approximately to the peak of the population of the Empire, Jews made up about 15 percent of its population.

[Eleutheria5]

Warranty expired?

[Lurker]

Is it still under warranty?

L

[Cronos]

I just downloaded Michael Grant’s “The Jews in the Roman empire “ and in the introduction he writes

“Numerically, taken over the whole earth, they were fewer in those days than they are now – perhaps eight million as against fourteen million today. But no less than seven of these eight million were in the Roman empire, where they constituted between six and nine per cent of the population – in the eastern provinces, the percentage was perhaps as high as twenty.”

So more like 7.5% not 15%

[Cronos]

Interesting

The fiscus Iudaicus was originally imposed on Jews. At the time neither the Romans nor, probably, the Christians considered their religion to be separate from Judaism. If anything they would have considered themselves as a Jewish sect

In 96 AD, Domitian’s successor Nerva reformed the administration of fiscus Iudaicus and redefined Judaism as a religion. This meant that Judaism was seen as distinct from Christianity and only those practising the former were liable to the tax

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Cr.