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Fruit of Caetano and Bruen, Short Clubs are Protected by Second Amendment
AmmoLand ^ | June 5, 2023 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 06/07/2023 4:44:59 AM PDT by marktwain

On July 25, 2022, Todd Yuktake and Justin Solomon filed a federal lawsuit against the Attorney General of Hawaii, Holly T. Shikada, for infringement of the right to keep and bear arms, specifically against the state of Hawaii’s ban on “billies” or “batons” outside the home. Billies were likely chosen, in part, because no procedure exists in Hawaii to allow the carry of short clubs outside the home. Over the course of the case, the AG changed from Shikada to Lopez.  From the complaint:

6. The State of Hawai‘i generally bans the possession of “deadly or dangerous weapons” outside the possessor’s home without some prior authorization. Haw. Rev. Stat. § 134-51. The ban specifically includes “billies.”…

9. Plaintiffs are not “authorized by law” to carry a baton and no known procedure exists that would allow Plaintiffs or other law-abiding citizens to achieve such authorization.

The ban on the carrying of billies or batons outside the home is directly contradicted by the Supreme Court decisions in Caetano in 2016 and in Bruen 2022. From Caetano:

The Court has held that “the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding,” District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U. S. 570, 582 (2008), and that this “Second Amendment right is fully applicable to the States,” McDonald v.Chicago, 561 U. S. 742, 750 (2010). In this case, the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts upheld a Massachusetts law prohibiting the possession of stun guns after examining “whether a stun gun is the type of weapon contemplated by Congress in 1789 as being protected by the Second Amendment.” 470 Mass. 774, 777, 26 N. E. 3d 688, 691 (2015).


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Clubs are one of the very first weapons used by man. It is obvious they are arms protected under the Second Amendment Rights.
1 posted on 06/07/2023 4:44:59 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The headline made me think for a moment that the government wanted my sand and pitching wedges. Good to know they cannot take the clubs that I can actually hit with any consistency.


2 posted on 06/07/2023 4:59:00 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Our empire of sodomy is failing as it should. How else could it go? )
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To: cdcdawg

Better watch out for that baseball bat sitting in the corner behind the bedroom door.


3 posted on 06/07/2023 5:30:40 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Donald Tantrum? No Thank You. We Can Do Better! I am a Veteran Supporting Veteran DeSantis.)
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To: cdcdawg
"Billy Billy Billy..."
4 posted on 06/07/2023 5:32:32 AM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: Reno89519

Especially when the baseball bat is fully semiautomatic and has one of those extra high capacity magazine clips that liberals are always getting so bent out of shape about.


5 posted on 06/07/2023 5:45:53 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Our empire of sodomy is failing as it should. How else could it go? )
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To: marktwain

How about “saps”?


6 posted on 06/07/2023 5:46:28 AM PDT by pingman (It's a Clown World, and we're paying for it.)
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To: marktwain

I feel like there’s an opportunity in swords as they come back into fashion....


7 posted on 06/07/2023 5:50:33 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: marktwain

I am so reminded of the Monty Python sketch on self defense against being attacked by raspberries.


8 posted on 06/07/2023 6:23:28 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: cdcdawg

My baseball bat has an attached chupacabra launcher. I suppose they’ll be coming for that, too. Sigh.


9 posted on 06/07/2023 7:55:48 AM PDT by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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To: marktwain
I carry a cricket bat in my car ... it's got a sharper edge than a baseball bat, and I can tell the authorities that I'm on my way to my cricket team practice.


10 posted on 06/07/2023 7:58:55 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Orchides Forum Trahite - Cordes Et Mentes Veniant)
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To: pingman

Saps !

Small, pocket size with a lead ball, leather wrapped spring handle

Marvelous. Would work well in crowd


11 posted on 06/07/2023 8:08:01 AM PDT by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: csvset

I have one of those that I picked up decades ago, but I never carried it. I think it’s in a junk box somewhere.


12 posted on 06/07/2023 8:53:42 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: marktwain
My little gun sometimes identifies as a club...

...and sometimes 'she' identifies as an automatic hole-puncher...

13 posted on 06/07/2023 9:08:40 AM PDT by spankalib
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To: Noumenon

That sounds amazing! Now I know what I want for Father’s Day.


14 posted on 06/07/2023 10:51:09 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Our empire of sodomy is failing as it should. How else could it go? )
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To: marktwain

15 posted on 06/12/2023 11:07:58 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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