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Oh Please: Pro-Biden Media Claim Someone Blew up Nord Stream, We Don’t Know Who, But it Sure Wasn’t Biden
Gateway Pundit ^ | Mar. 8, 2023 | Richard Abelson

Posted on 03/08/2023 10:10:01 AM PST by Kazan

Possibly aiming to deflect attention from Seymour Hersh’s bombshell Nord Stream report, the usual suspects in the pro-Biden media have published poorly-sourced rumors seeking to pin the blame for the Nord Stream attack on vague “pro-Ukrainian groups” not tied to anyone important. Russian embassy spokesman Andrey Ledenev pointed out how quickly the strange reports were picked up worldwide, in stark contrast to the much more detailed report by Seymour Hersh, which has been completely ignored by the same media.

The New York Times published a rambling and nearly incoherent report claiming “new intelligence reviewed by U.S. officials suggests that a pro-Ukrainian group carried out the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines last year.”

At the same time, German pubweb ARD and leftist “Die Zeit” weekly also published their own fishy fishing expedition, citing German investigators and claiming they had identified a Ukrainian-owned Polish private yacht which was chartered by five men and a female doctor: A skipper, two divers and two dive assistants. Their identity and nationality was unclear.

The yacht allegedly set to sea Sept. 6 from Rostock, Germany and was later localized near Danish island Christiansø northeast of Bornholm, where the Nord Stream attack took place Sept. 26. Allegedly, the international team of saboteurs forgot to clear up their tracks and returned the boat with traces of explosives on the kitchen table, the German report claims. The investigators allegedly even found two fake passports used by the saboteurs.

“Even if traces lead to Ukraine, the investigators have not yet been able to find out who hired the group of suspected perpetrators. In international security circles, it is not ruled out that it could also be a false flag operation. This means that traces could also have been deliberately laid that point to Ukraine as the culprit. However, the investigators have apparently found no evidence that confirms such a scenario,” Holger Stark writes in Die Zeit.

US Russian Embassy counselor Andrey Ledenev called the reports “an attempt to confuse those who are sincerely trying to get to the bottom of things in this egregious crime. Shift the blame from the statesmen who ordered and coordinated the attacks in the Baltic Sea to some abstract individuals. We are convinced that in the end justice will prevail. We shall spare no effort for this to happen.”

Russia has “no faith in the ‘impartiality’ of the conclusions of the US intelligence,” Ledenev said, pointing out how quickly the new, anonymously sourced articles were picked up world wide, in stark contrast to the Hersh report, which has been resoundingly ignored by all major Western media. “We noticed the mentioned article instantly got a ‘green light’ in the local information field, literally being all over the media in a heartbeat,” Ledenev said.

“This is especially noteworthy given the attempts of the local officials and journalists to blatantly silence the resonant material of the Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh on the same topic. As well as the administration’s opposition to launching a comprehensive and independent investigation into this act of international terrorism against critical energy infrastructure.”

A senior aide to Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, told The Guardian the government in Kyiv was “in no way involved in the attack” on Nord Stream. “In the midst of a war … Ukraine and its allies would definitely not spend resources on something that would not bring us victory directly on the battlefield. It doesn’t make any sense. But it is extremely beneficial for Russia itself to try to switch attention from the war … and try to present itself as a kind of ‘victim’,” the unnamed source claimed.

Interview with Hersh (video): https://youtu.be/b8QRWPxWP0o


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Here's story about a man named Brady..about a man named Jed...About five unknown "pro-Ukrainian" terrorists that committed one of history's greatest terrorist acts, renting a yacht and returning it with their five fake passports and residue from the explosive still on it!

Not even Marcus Maximus, Timber Rattler or Speedy in Texas should be dumb to believe that? Could they?

1 posted on 03/08/2023 10:10:01 AM PST by Kazan
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residue from the explosive still on it!

That is an amazing bomb that can spew residue all over passports from an explosion 200 feet underwater.

2 posted on 03/08/2023 10:12:47 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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3 posted on 03/08/2023 10:13:01 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kazan

Well, Brandon is more into shooting balloons.


4 posted on 03/08/2023 10:14:22 AM PST by Leep (Hillary will NEVER be president! 😁)
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To: Kazan

Nuland-Sullivan dastardly doings.


5 posted on 03/08/2023 10:14:52 AM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) Forget "Global Warming", new grants are for "Galaxy Dimming")
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To: Kazan

Rep. Ilhan Omar Said: Some people did something.


6 posted on 03/08/2023 10:17:06 AM PST by ncfool (TRUMP SHOULD BE THE KING MAKER IN 2024 AND NOT THE KING. -- Desantis 2024)
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To: Kazan

Yes, its total bullshit, designed merely as smoke and flash-bang to be shot from MSM propaganda cannons.

No doubt the zeepers and paid agents here will push this nonsense, at least for a day or two.


7 posted on 03/08/2023 10:17:39 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Kazan

Couldn’t have been us. Proof? The ship would have had LGBTWXYZwhatever colored flag, along with the frog”persons” carrying similarly colored ox tanks and also sporting the sick little colored collection on their sleeves. Guaranteed!! ;-)


8 posted on 03/08/2023 10:18:48 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Kazan

9 posted on 03/08/2023 10:19:57 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Kazan

Nord Stream Attack - White House Counters Hersh's Reputation With Weak 'Intelligence'

On September 28 2022, a day after the Nord Stream pipelines were blown up, I published the available open source evidence which strongly suggested that the U.S. had done it:

Whodunnit? - Facts Related to The Sabotage Attack On The Nord Stream Pipelines

On February 8 the legendary investigative reporter Seymour Hersh published a remarkable similar tale of the story based on insider witnesses.

Hersh: "How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline"

I then suggested some minor corrections to Hersh's version of the story.

While Hersh's story found an echo in Europe's newspapers, U.S. mainstream media did all they could to avoid it:

Scores of hits from publications across the globe pop up from an internet search for veteran investigative reporter Seymour Hersh’s claim that the US destroyed Russia’s Nord Stream gas pipeline.

But what is most striking about the page after page of results from Google, Bing and DuckDuckGo in the weeks following the February 8 posting of Hersh’s story isn’t what is there, but what is not to be found:

Is there justification for such self-censorship? True, Hersh’s story is based on a single anonymous source. But anonymous sources are a staple of mainstream reporting on the US government, used by all major outlets. Further, countless stories of lesser national and international import have been published with the caveat that the facts reported have not been independently verified.

Doubts about Hersh’s story aside, by every journalistic standard, the extensive international coverage given the story, as well as the adamant White House and Pentagon denials, should have made it big news in the United States.

More important, if Hersh got it wrong, his story needs to be knocked down. Silence is not acceptable journalism.

Some papers later mentioned the Hersh story but only in other context. Still the pressure on the U.S. government and media to react to the story continued to build.

The results came today, a full month after the Hersh story, with New York Times publishing another of the usual 'intelligence' fairytales:

Intelligence Suggests Pro-Ukrainian Group Sabotaged Pipelines, U.S. Officials Say
New intelligence reporting amounts to the first significant known lead about who was responsible for the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines that carried natural gas from Russia to Europe.

All fine - except that there is no 'intelligence'. There are only claims by anonymous 'officials' to NYT reporters that some vague 'intelligence' may exist.

Cont. reading: Nord Stream Attack - White House Counters Hersh's Reputation With Weak 'Intelligence'

Posted by b at 17:53 UTC | Comments (184)

March 06, 2023

Why Bakhmut Is Falling

Just two days ago I reported that Bakhmut is falling. The Ukrainian soldiers there are outgunned 1 to 10 and die under artillery fire with little chance to shot back. More reports from the front have since come in. They support my dire view.

The German pro-Ukrainian news outlet Bild reported this morning that there were misgivings in the Ukrainian war leadership:

President Volodymyr Zelensky and Commander-in-Chief of Ukraine’s Armed Forces Valerii Zaluzhnyi have conflicting views on how the military should handle the situation in Bakhmut, according to unnamed sources within the Ukrainian political leadership cited in a report by Bild. 

Bild writes that Zaluzhnyi was deliberating a tactical withdrawal from Bakhmut weeks ago over concern for the wellbeing of his troops.

The Ukrainian government told Bild that remaining in Bakhmut was the right decision due to the serious damage it inflicted on Russian military personnel and equipment. However, according to other sources cited by the publication, the situation is at risk of becoming untenable.

"The vast majority of soldiers in Bakhmut do not understand why the city is being held," a Ukrainian military analyst told Bild on condition of anonymity.

Just hours after that item came out Zelensky's office issued a press release denying any such trouble (machine translation):

On Monday, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy held a regular meeting of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief's Staff.

The commanders of the operational and strategic troop groups reported on the situation on the main front lines.

The members of the Staff considered the situation in Bakhmut in particular. Assessing the course of the defense operation, the President asked Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valeriy Zaluzhnyi and Commander of the operational and strategic grouping of troops "Khortytsia" Oleksandr Syrskyi about further actions in the Bakhmut direction. They spoke in favor of continuing the defense operation and further strengthening our positions in Bakhmut.

I do not believe that Zaluzhnyi and Sirskyi gave such advice. The situation for the Ukrainians in Bakhmut (Ru: Artyomovsk) is hopeless and they certainly know it. Losses would be less if the troops would pull back to the next defense line on the higher grounds west of Bakhmut.


Source: topographic-map.com - bigger

The current situation is a mess:

10 posted on 03/08/2023 10:20:06 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: Kazan

Word games! It WASN’T Biden! He didn’t put the charges on the pipeline, and he didn’t push the button.


11 posted on 03/08/2023 10:26:27 AM PST by FrankRizzo890
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To: Kazan

I’m surprised they haven’t blamed the pipeline explosion on Climate Change.
Al Gore and Greta Thunberg should look into that.


12 posted on 03/08/2023 10:28:06 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Kazan

We have no idea who it was, but we definitely know it wasn’t Biden.

That pretty much means we know it is Biden, but we need misdirection to keep the idiots from knowing it.


13 posted on 03/08/2023 10:30:09 AM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: FrankRizzo890

A “pro-Ukainian” activist group? Lol.

Isnt that what we are?


14 posted on 03/08/2023 10:33:01 AM PST by MrRelevant
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To: Kazan

the memo there appears to have been to avoid discussion of details and, if one engaged on the nordstream topic at all, focus on ad hominem attacks on the author.


15 posted on 03/08/2023 10:33:37 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Kazan

They will continue to lie because if the truth gets out, the German public isn’t going to be happy about it and might vote out their politicians who are total lackeys of the US. Just wait until major German industry closes down or moves to another country because it’s financially unviable to continue operations at energy prices 4x normal due to the Russian sanctions. Europe’s economies are totally screwed without the cheap Russian energy, I wouldn’t be surprised if this results in the breakup of NATO/EU in a couple of years.


16 posted on 03/08/2023 10:35:16 AM PST by jimwatx
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To: Kazan
This story contradicts what Jim Hoft posted yesterday! Maybe some more editorial supervision is in order?
17 posted on 03/08/2023 10:41:23 AM PST by Widget Jr ( 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0 )
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To: Travis McGee

That $2.4/mmbtu amount in the graphic is also suspiciously low. Present CME futures are about $2.5/mmbtu - and that’s after having declined 75% from highs last autumn

Morever, go out the futures curve 1 year and prices are at $3.5/mmbtu.

LNG is certainly competitive with other forms of energy, particularly in the 3rd world, but it can never compete with pipeline gas, particularly from Russia.


18 posted on 03/08/2023 10:46:07 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Kazan

There are only a few nations with the ability to do this. Ukraine ain’t one of them.


19 posted on 03/08/2023 10:46:14 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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20 posted on 03/08/2023 10:47:05 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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