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To: Starman417

the problem with the oz fetterman reference in the article is that the suggestion is that it was about personalities. It was not.

It was about ballots. Brain dead Fetterman won because the democrats had a better balloting system—ie ballot harvesting system— than the republicans. The republicans didn’t ballot harvest at all.

That’s why Trumps announcement that he’s all in for ballot harvesting is the most significant news of the 2024 campaign so far.


3 posted on 02/16/2023 10:56:12 AM PST by ckilmer (q)
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To: ckilmer

[[The republicans didn’t ballot harvest at all.]]

Exactly- liberals hit up old folks homes- and ‘help’ the older folks fill out ballots- which of course will end up being for liberal candidates only most likely- there doesn’t seem to be any accountability- so who knows how many older folk’s votes got changed because they were ‘helped’ by the harvesters?


5 posted on 02/16/2023 11:00:13 AM PST by Bob434
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To: ckilmer
That’s why Trumps announcement that he’s all in for ballot harvesting is the most significant news of the 2024 campaign so far.

That is correct so long as we follow through and actually ballot harvest.

That's one way to end ballot harvesting once and for all. If the Republicans can figure a way to do it better, the Democrats will be hollering to put a stop to it.

6 posted on 02/16/2023 11:01:15 AM PST by SamAdams76 (4,895,899 Truth | 87,656,930 Twitter)
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To: ckilmer
It was about ballots. Brain dead Fetterman won because the democrats had a better balloting system—ie ballot harvesting system— than the republicans. The republicans didn’t ballot harvest at all.

This ballot harvesting/cheating has going on for years, in fact, almost a decade. When do you suppose Ronna McDaniels and the rest of the Republicans will wake up and get a clue? To his shame, even Trump proved woefully unprepared for the 2020 post-election slugfest that everyone, and I mean everyone, knew was coming.

It was farcically tragic that no Republican seemed prepared for ballot harvesting and the Zuckerbucks shenanigans that were happening as a slow-motion trainwreck in 2020. And again, asleep and snookered in the 2022 midterms. I wholly doubt anything at all will change for 2024. There will be a lot of post-election ranting, but as usual, it will all be Republican's fault for not make the determination to not wise up.

10 posted on 02/16/2023 11:10:31 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: ckilmer

Yes, ballot harvesting is a problem. But the Oz/Fetterman race really was about personalities to a large extent. Oz was a terrible candidate, a Hollywood carpetbagger who looked silly and awkward in his TV ads.

On the other hand, Fetterman’s ads were quite good. He came across as your average Joe Sixpack, the kind of guy you work with down at the mill. That’s not true, of course. But lots of people bought it.


14 posted on 02/16/2023 11:20:54 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: ckilmer

I sometimes wonder if he said he’s for ballot harvesting to get Democrats to say they are against it. 🙂


17 posted on 02/16/2023 11:24:00 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: ckilmer

OZ Fetterman was about 2 things….

First and foremost an absolute off brand crap candidate names OZ

And second simple math

46% d
39% R
15% I

That’s the PA makeup, to win statewide as an R you need to get every R vote there is to get and win independents by more than 2 to q and/or peel off a lot conservative/moderate democrats.

The carpetbagging turd had zero shot at accomplishing that task.


55 posted on 02/17/2023 3:07:06 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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