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US falls short on weapons, will not divert exports from South Korea
WION on Youtube ^ | 11/27/22 | Staff

Posted on 11/27/2022 8:01:10 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...

The war in Ukraine has now lasted for almost 10 months. The Western allies remember before the beginning of the war simply had not anticipated the scale of this conflict but today it is the primary cause of domestic and international wars.

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👉 U.S. looks to supply older and cheaper weapons to Ukraine.

NATO plans on restarting old weapons factories to boost prouction.

Ukraine is firing 7k rounds per day of which the U.S. only produces 15k per month. 👈

1 posted on 11/27/2022 8:01:11 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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Libtards: WION put out Putin propaganda in this report!

Hindustan Times, 11/27/22: Putin’s war empties arsenal of 20 NATO nations after U.S.

“According to a report published in the New York Times, at least 20 of the alliance’s 30 members are “pretty tapped out. ...”

Libtards: Hindustan Times also put out Putin propaganda even though they are citing the New York Times!!!!!


2 posted on 11/27/2022 8:01:54 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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WION
Gravitas Plus: Did NATO push Ukraine into war?

https://youtu.be/TzgPJeYZaOU

“On Gravitas Plus, Palki Sharma tells you how Western arrogance & NATO’s expansionism are also to blame, how their actions precipitated the crisis in Ukraine.”


3 posted on 11/27/2022 8:02:35 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Despite Zelensky’s NEVER ENDING demands for more GIBS-ME-DATs, the source wells can start running dry.


4 posted on 11/27/2022 8:35:08 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX.)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WION
WION (World is One News) is an Indian multinational English language news channel headquartered in New Delhi.


Globalism on tap from New Delhi, with frequent attaboys for India’s “all weather friend”, Russia.

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opinion/columns/g-parthasarathy/india-too-has-an-all-weather-friend/article29452072.ece


5 posted on 11/27/2022 8:38:26 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

“U.S. looks to supply older and cheaper weapons to Ukraine.
NATO plans on restarting old weapons factories to boost prouction.”

It is a slow process to activate large scale restocking of ammo weapon systems, but is underway across many NATO countries, including the USA.

Some things get reordered and produced quickly, others will take years, but are buffered by large inventories (like artillery shells).

Forget about Poland - they are off the hook ordering an historic armament drive.


6 posted on 11/27/2022 8:42:12 PM PST by BeauBo ( )
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To: Its All Over Except ...
"U.S. looks to supply older and cheaper weapons to Ukraine."
As many as one third of the howitzers the U.S. has sent to Ukraine have broken down or are otherwise unusable. It's been suggested that they're older models rushed out of storage and sent off without any sort of testing or maintenance.
7 posted on 11/27/2022 8:47:33 PM PST by Blurb2350 (posted from my 1500-watt blow dryer)
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[As many as one third of the howitzers the U.S. has sent to Ukraine have broken down or are otherwise unusable. It’s been suggested that they’re older models rushed out of storage and sent off without any sort of testing or maintenance. ]


Much of the gear handed over was within a decade of being scrapped. The fact is Russia is being held back by the West’s junkyard leavings. Funny thing is the Russians insisted that Iraq’s poor performance during its two encounters with Uncle Sam had to do with Iraqi incompetence and monkey model Russian exports. The stuff the Russians used was supposed to be way better than the exports. I’m starting to wonder whether Russian gear husbanded for domestic use is *worse* than export models. After all, Russian arms manufacturers have a captive domestic market. Whereas Iraq bought from the French, the Chinese, etc, which means anything Russia sold to Iraq had to be as good as or better than the other foreign competition.


8 posted on 11/27/2022 9:05:24 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei

You attack them personally instead of attacking their evidence.

Secondly.

Hindustan Times has been attacked here and called Putin supporters just like you are using that same line even though Hindustan Times cited the New York Times, hardly Putin supporters.

Grow up.


9 posted on 11/27/2022 9:32:55 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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Wrong. The evidence that came out is that most of the arms, across the board, the US has given Ukraine has been top of the line.

I’ve seen the threads from the neocons here attesting to that.

Try lying somewhere else.

Again, grow up.


10 posted on 11/27/2022 9:36:04 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Blurb2350

Z Fei uses clown tactics:

What I told Z Fei:

“You attack them [WION] personally instead of attacking their evidence.

Secondly.

Hindustan Times has been attacked here and called Putin supporters just like you are using that same line even though Hindustan Times cited the New York Times, hardly Putin supporters.

Grow up.

The evidence that came out is that most of the arms, across the board, the US has given Ukraine has been top of the line.

I’ve seen the threads from the neocons here attesting to that.

Try lying somewhere else.

Again, grow up.”


11 posted on 11/27/2022 9:41:50 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Its All Over Except ...

[Wrong. The evidence that came out is that most of the arms, across the board, the US has given Ukraine has been top of the line.

I’ve seen the threads from the neocons here attesting to that.]


Which threads? We are giving them Humvees and M113’s which are far from state-of-the-art. M113’s were introduced in 1960. Javelins were introduced almost 30 years ago. HARM’s are almost 40 years old.

The contrast is huge. The Russians gave the Koreans and the Chinese MiG-15’s, T-34’s, which were less than a decade old at the time of the Korean War. Ditto with North Vietnam, during which the VPAF got MiG-17’s, MiG-19’s and MiG-21’s, which ranged from a decade old to 20 years at worst. We haven’t given the Ukrainians a single US jet fighter. We have over 3,000 F-16’s in the junkyard.


12 posted on 11/27/2022 10:10:32 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

[You attack them personally instead of attacking their evidence.

Secondly.

Hindustan Times has been attacked here and called Putin supporters just like you are using that same line even though Hindustan Times cited the New York Times, hardly Putin supporters.

Grow up.]


What evidence? While not a Putin supporter, the New York Times is appeasement-oriented just like Biden. For pretty much the entire Cold War, the Democrats talked tough while signing us up for arms agreements the Russians flouted. Whereas Trump said nice things about Putin and Xi while exiting those agreements and building new nukes so the Russians and the Chinese were under no illusion that we lacked the capability to kill every last one of them if they nuked us.

Biden is giving the least amount of support he can to Ukraine while claiming to to be standing up against Russia. Our funding for Ukraine is similar to our funding for Afghanistan.

https://www.cbo.gov/system/files?file=2018-10/54219-oco_spending.pdf#page=20

Except the Afghans killed maybe a few thousand Taliban a year with the help of US air and artillery support. Whereas Ukrainians have killed 120,000 Russians in the course of a war that, while small by WWI, WWII (during which the Russians lost 500,000 dead a year) and Korean War (when the death toll on all sides reached over 1.5m a year) standards, is the biggest in 70 years.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1596788426694660097.html


13 posted on 11/27/2022 10:24:31 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei

I’m hoping you aren’t saying the learning curve to fly a F-16 is the same as a first generation MIG?


14 posted on 11/28/2022 5:02:49 AM PST by Trinity5
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