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To: Blurb2350

[As many as one third of the howitzers the U.S. has sent to Ukraine have broken down or are otherwise unusable. It’s been suggested that they’re older models rushed out of storage and sent off without any sort of testing or maintenance. ]


Much of the gear handed over was within a decade of being scrapped. The fact is Russia is being held back by the West’s junkyard leavings. Funny thing is the Russians insisted that Iraq’s poor performance during its two encounters with Uncle Sam had to do with Iraqi incompetence and monkey model Russian exports. The stuff the Russians used was supposed to be way better than the exports. I’m starting to wonder whether Russian gear husbanded for domestic use is *worse* than export models. After all, Russian arms manufacturers have a captive domestic market. Whereas Iraq bought from the French, the Chinese, etc, which means anything Russia sold to Iraq had to be as good as or better than the other foreign competition.


8 posted on 11/27/2022 9:05:24 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei

Wrong. The evidence that came out is that most of the arms, across the board, the US has given Ukraine has been top of the line.

I’ve seen the threads from the neocons here attesting to that.

Try lying somewhere else.

Again, grow up.


10 posted on 11/27/2022 9:36:04 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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