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Lisichansk locals about their liberation by Russian forces
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Posted on 07/02/2022 11:11:41 PM PDT by ganeemead

Local people of Lisichansk celebrate Russian forces rescuing them from ukronazi/bandera savages


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1 posted on 07/02/2022 11:11:41 PM PDT by ganeemead
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When the woman talks about waiting, she means waiting for eight years while being subjected to constant shelling and terrorism by the Kiev regime and its nazi military...


2 posted on 07/02/2022 11:14:28 PM PDT by ganeemead (There is no definition of patriotism that includes stooging or siding with Nazis against Christians.)
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A look at the battlefield from the perspective of a Russian soldier that explains why Ukraine loses.

https://t.me/s/Za_Derjavy/18895

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The advancing army always suffers multiple times greater losses. This is simply an axiom of military science, nothing can be done about it, it just needs to be taken into account.

When we hear that on the one hand there are such and such losses, and on the other hand such and such, then we should also clarify - under what circumstances, and if as a result of offensive actions, then - who attacked.

The ratio of attacking and defending forces (in people) in modern warfare is 11 to 1. This is because of automatic and precision weapons.

That is. If the attacking side has reached the goal of its offensive, and has suffered losses in the ratio of the defending 11 to 1, then this is considered an acceptable loss. Usually, the losses are much less.

The advancing army always suffers multiple times greater losses. This is simply an axiom of military science, nothing can be done about it, it just needs to be taken into account. When we hear that, on the one hand, there are such and such losses, and on the other, such and such losses, then we should also clarify - under what circumstances ...
But if we talk about losses, then I would like to give a few words to the opposite side.

The retreating Ukrainian army, with every onslaught of our troops, suffers serious losses. I will describe in general terms one major offensive operation that took place before my eyes, and the administrator has something to do with ensuring the success of this operation.

Before attacking Ukrainian positions, they are subjected to massive artillery fire. So massive that I’m not afraid to call it artillery terror. Even before the end of the artillery preparation, the forces of our infantry begin to advance in the direction of the enemy (to the line). At the end of the artillery preparation, the enemy, not yet having time to recover and sum up the damage suffered, is faced with an assault on his positions. If suddenly, the enemy finds the strength to provide at least relatively stubborn resistance, then our infantry does not attack, but retreats in an organized manner to the original one. And the artillery terror begins again. And again our infantry approaches.

This can be repeated 2, 3, 4 or even more times. Until the enemy finds himself in a position in which it is simply pointless to continue fighting: the losses in killed and wounded are large, the fortifications have been severely destroyed, equipment and warehouses have been destroyed.

Most often, the next attack of our infantry ends with the fact that we go to the positions that were broken and left by the enemy.

In one of these operations, I witnessed a radio conversation between the colonel and the company commander, where the colonel shouted with courage in “excitement”: - “have you managed to kill anyone at all?! Kill them all the f__k! You took their positions ?! Occupy and kill anyone who resists!

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crests are seriously depleted of resources. For example, the ratio of artillery activity at the beginning of the operation I described above was approximately 60/40. By the end, the tufted artillery was practically silent. Part of the artillery was knocked out by counter-battery work, part by aviation, but for the most part - the lack of ammunition.

It should be understood that as well as technical depletion, it is worth including human depletion as well. Khokhols, from the beginning of the conflict, do not consider losses. They simply do not keep any detailed statistics in principle. Mark my words: when the war ends and the time comes to collect the stones, the losses of the Ukrainian army will, in principle, be impossible to calculate even approximately.

crests have a lot of different foreign weapons. That’s just the use of these weapons is not enough. For you to understand, for us this is no longer any interesting trophies. Ukrainians are knocked out of their positions, and these various grenade launchers are lying around everywhere - from American to Turkish and German - and we continue to stomp on them, without any interest in them. We have nowhere to put our grenade launchers, and then there is this exotic rubbish. Well, they shot from them, for comparison, they realized that there was not much difference, and that’s it.
crests simply ran out of Soviet stocks along the borders, so they use imported ones, which are supplied to them in large volumes. And as you may have guessed, they generally do not help them much.

And in the beginning, such finds were considered trophies, they were given medals and paid according to the price list. Now if you drag a javelin to the CP, they will just send you the f__k) now you can get something for which you can still get something, you can only bring it with the help of an experienced driver or trawl)

We erase them into atoms - slowly, methodically, confidently. And they cannot make up for this with any imported fittings. And most importantly, what comes to them, albeit through a__ pain, that the human resource is exhausted. And even if no one keeps statistics there, but in real terms they see and understand that they end - literally and inevitably.
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3 posted on 07/02/2022 11:35:58 PM PDT by Cathi
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Excellent Rybar video of where Ukrainians and Russians are heading to for the next battle.

I had posted this earlier from a Telegram link, but for those who don’t have Telegram here is the video on Twitter so it is accessible to all.

I definitely recommend watching...it is very short, but gives you a clear idea of what is next in this “special military operation.”

https://twitter.com/Cyberspec1/status/1543359159327809536

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Video from Rybar with their view on potential developments at #Bakhmut


4 posted on 07/02/2022 11:37:02 PM PDT by Cathi
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Damn.... That is pretty much what I've been reading but that seems to be what the business looks like up close and personal. Your side is expending artgillery ammo which you have a 50-century supply of while the Ukrainians are expending human lives and the women in those towns and villages in the West are going crazy because Ukraine is being turned into the planet's one-stop shop for mail-order brides, i.e. therre aren't going to be any men of marriagable age left in the country. Zelensky and dthe Kiev Nazis plainly don't care about that. A recent article in a major UK military think tank notes that Ukraine has never had any shot in this "war" and that there is no excuse for western leaders to have been forcing "hohhols" to fight under such conditions. That is basically sinful in my view In past ages, God has destroyed entire nations for that kind of thing. My own writeup of the thing
5 posted on 07/03/2022 12:35:20 AM PDT by ganeemead (There is no definition of patriotism that includes stooging or siding with Nazis against Christians.)
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Obviously also, the whole thing about attackers needing a many to one edge in numbers does not apply when infantry and artillery are being used in the manner your source describes.


6 posted on 07/03/2022 12:50:41 AM PDT by ganeemead (There is no definition of patriotism that includes stooging or siding with Nazis against Christians.)
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I haven't watched this one, but I saw a similar video on Sievierodonetsk.

They trotted out frightened elderly civilians who were unwilling to evacuate because those homes were all they have. And some claimed to welcome the Russians and claimed Ukraine had been shelling them for years.

But there is several problems with this.


7 posted on 07/03/2022 1:53:17 AM PDT by DannyTN
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“Obviously also, the whole thing about attackers needing a many to one edge in numbers does not apply when infantry and artillery are being used in the manner your source describes.”


Most people do not understand how this war is being fought. I keep reading posts mocking Putin for having made so little territorial gains in X number of months suggesting his war is failing. They couldn’t be more wrong...:-)

First, Putin initially had no intention of making this an all out war so he never mobilized Russian forces. He only brought in 200,000 troops so he obviously had no intention of a full steam ahead clash. Obviously he NEVER had superior forces numbers.

Zelensky has claimed he has 750,000 troops, though experts say it was about 1/3 of that. But, whatever, it was more than Putin brought to the battle.

Putin’s battle plan had been to fight in a way that minimized Russian casualties. He did not want to have to take Russia into full mobilization. And his goals were never territorial gains initially anyway. He wanted to kill Ukraine’s military and their Nazis/nationalist troops. Remember, initially he did not even intend to stay in Ukraine and that only changed after Zelensky reneged on concessions made in Istanbul and Putin realized that NATO’s plan was to take out Putin/Russia. He reworked his plan and decided Russia would have to stay “forever.”

In early May I posted a video from a Russian soldier in Izium. He described the same scenario that today’s soldier did. 24/7 longer reaching artillery fire than the Ukrainians had and a resulting casualty ratio of 7 (U) to 1 (R)...saying casualties were rare except for the initial few days when they were 500 and that those commanders had been jailed and new tactics initiated. He said Putin’s orders were to hold back, advance slowly and limit Russian casualties.

It’s too bad that today’s soldier is right and that Ukraine is truly NOT keeping casualty statistics so the world will never know how many young men had their lives snuffed out by that evil, corrupt grifter.


8 posted on 07/03/2022 1:56:02 AM PDT by Cathi
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“When the woman talks about waiting, she means waiting for eight years while being subjected to constant shelling and terrorism by the Kiev regime and its nazi military...”

Funny, the timing. It seems that life was fine, or at least ok, in Ukraine (at least this part), until the Neocons finally installed their man in 2014 - then it went to hell.


9 posted on 07/03/2022 1:57:57 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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“They see Russia is advancing and don’t want Russia eliminating them. So they pretend to welcome the Russians.”

Anything’s possible, but their performances top-notch if they’re acting, and they don’t look like actors.

“Remember the turncoats in France who welcomed and worked with the Germans.”

Depends where in France. If it was a German area in France, maybe they weren’t turncoats.

“These cities are pretty far from the rebel occupied territory and I don’t believe there was much fighting in those areas since 2014. I can’t find any references to fighing in Sievierodonetsk that is before the war started in 2022.”

Probably the case - The Neocon-run Ukraine rolled over this Russian-speaking area, and life has sucked then. And then you have the Azov-types that the Russian-speakers have to deal with.

“I think these scared elderly people are saying what the Russians want them to say because they have been occupied by the Russians.”

If and when Russia makes it to Ukrainian-speaking areas, that will have more likelihood.

“International observers said the Russian claims about Ukraine shelling civilians in the rebel occupied areas weren’t true. Which again makes me think these are bogus claims made under duress in order to survive the Russian occupation.”

The above claims were published throughout the Western media BEFORE 2022 (when there wasn’t a clear-cut bias), so given the credibility of the West and the media since this war started, I wouldn’t trust ‘International Observers’ one bit at this point.


10 posted on 07/03/2022 2:09:46 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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“When the woman talks about waiting, she means waiting for eight years while being subjected to constant shelling and terrorism by the Kiev regime and its nazi military...”

Except that the Ukrainians controlled that town and therefore were not shelling it for 8 years. Seriously, do you not think before you post?


11 posted on 07/03/2022 3:42:03 AM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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First, Putin initially had no intention of making this an all out war so he never mobilized Russian forces. He only brought in 200,000 troops so he obviously had no intention of a full steam ahead clash. Obviously he NEVER had superior forces numbers.

Putin thought he could easily take Kyiv in two weeks, force out Zeleniski, and install a puppet regime. He didn’t want an all-out war, he wanted a Ukraine that would crumble at the first signs of trouble.

Putin should have stayed in Russia.

12 posted on 07/03/2022 4:37:12 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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“Putin thought he could easily take Kyiv in two weeks, force out Zeleniski, and install a puppet regime. He didn’t want an all-out war, he wanted a Ukraine that would crumble at the first signs of trouble.”


Well, I’m sure he would have preferred that and it’s too bad that didn’t happen for Ukraine’s sake. Now, instead of a “puppet regime” (though they may get one for the rump state left in Western Ukraine) part of Ukraine is now going to be in Russia and there are hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded Ukrainians.

Ukraine needed more realistic leadership and more realistic advisors (read: NATO)


13 posted on 07/03/2022 4:54:36 AM PDT by Cathi
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These people would do well to remember that we’ll decide what they should or shouldn’t be happy about right here, from our couches while we watch Sean Hannity on Fox news.

We know what’s best and it’s for their own good.


14 posted on 07/03/2022 5:12:28 AM PDT by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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The stakes in this war are much higher and different than the Western media has portrayed them.

The motivation of Biden to keep this war going is about his desperation to conceal his own corruption in Ukraine and the financial benefits MANY American politicians have received by the massive, long-term money laundering in that country.

Ukraine has been the main huge slush fund for American politicians for many years.

The USA, as a country, has no strategic interest in Ukraine, but American politicians have become extremely wealthy ripping off Ukraine as eager criminals always do when finding treasure they can loot.


15 posted on 07/03/2022 5:21:43 AM PDT by Gnome1949
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"Except that the Ukrainians controlled that town and therefore were not shelling it for 8 years. Seriously, do you not think before you post?"

That one poor old woman was totally terrified of SOMETHING the hohos had been doing for eight years ( ... we waited [8 years] ...are they all gone... .are they all gone. ...ушли ушди...

You think maybe Zelensky had taught them all to play pianos with their Johnsons and the old woman was afraid they were gonna march into town and start doing that in the streets??

16 posted on 07/03/2022 6:22:53 AM PDT by ganeemead (There is no definition of patriotism that includes stooging or siding with Nazis against Christians.)
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Correct. We probably need to hang all but two or three dozen current members of congress.


17 posted on 07/03/2022 6:25:12 AM PDT by ganeemead (There is no definition of patriotism that includes stooging or siding with Nazis against Christians.)
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Sounds more like WW1, cept the Russians are better trained, organized, equipped, and supplied compared to the NATO backed Uke’s


18 posted on 07/03/2022 6:25:38 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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Great piece of Russian Propaganda!
Those poor people just suffered in quiet in their houses and stuff, living peacefully in their city.
Then Uncle Vlad came to their rescue! Killed bunch of them, burned their houses, destroyed all their livelihood !

Thanks Uncle Vlad!
That’s what all those people waited for for such along time!
Happy times are here again!
Now Uncle is giving us some water and bread. And we can dig some hole in the ground to live there!
Oh, how we rejoice!


19 posted on 07/03/2022 7:09:08 AM PDT by AZJeep
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You really want that Nobel Prize for Ignorance that badly??


20 posted on 07/03/2022 7:12:49 AM PDT by ganeemead (There is no definition of patriotism that includes stooging or siding with Nazis against Christians.)
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