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Are Unvaxed Deaths Touted to Avoid the Other End of the Bell Curve?
Self | 70times7

Posted on 09/22/2021 7:07:50 AM PDT by 70times7

Our wonderful and forthcoming government has been insistent to the point of oppression that we must all become vaccinated. We must do this to overcome COVID and “stop the spread”. Unfortunately there are problems with this.

Recently I was talking with a work colleague. She was adamant that everyone should be vaccinated and that not getting the vaccine was unbelievably selfish. Among her claims was that unvaccinated covid patients are taking ICU beds from others who need them. This is false because covid ICUs are necessarily separate and typically set up away from regular ICU units. Nonetheless, this and other points she raised got me thinking and reading. And this morning I had a small epiphany … maybe.

For starters let’s all agree that “the government”, in its various forms, has been consistently lying to us about covid. Consider the recent revelation that more than 40% of the people hospitalized by covid were actually hospitalized for something else but tested positive while there. Admittedly, I believe the government alters data to protect itself from accountability for screwing things up. Others disagree. Either way, when “facts” are used regarding covid it should be done cautiously.

Studies have shown that a vaxed person can contract covid just as easily as an unxaxed person. These studies also show that the “viral load” is the same between vaccinated and unvaccinated. Viral load is a measure of how much virus is in the body of an infected individual. Viral load is also a measure of how contagious an infected person is. But if vaxed and unvaxed are equally contagious how will vaxing slow the spread? One answer could be reduced duration of symptoms.

There is agreement that the vaccinated have reduced symptoms and recover more quickly. This means that the window for a vaxed person to be contagious and shed virus is smaller too. Good news, right? Maybe not.

Most every aspect of covid can be measured using a bell curve. If we were to graph symptom severity for positives it would probably be a typical curve ranging from no symptoms at all to those unfortunate folks who died very soon after infection. One highly touted reason for getting vaccinated is that symptoms are reduced; you are shifted to the left on that curve. A person who would have died unvaccinated is instead hospitalized but lives. A person who would have been hospitalized if unvaccinated rides it out at home, etc. The problem is that we have been ignoring the other end of the bell curve.

By insisting that everyone get vaccinated we have created a huge segment of our population that will experience mild symptoms or no symptoms when infected. Moderate symptoms would have prompted them to get tested and then quarantine to avoid spreading the virus. But now hundreds of thousands of people will have no symptoms at all, or they will have symptoms so mild that they may not react and get tested. All of them, with an undiminished viral load, are out in the public infecting others. They are untested and unquarantined. And this is being literally forced on us while the more contagious Delta variant is everywhere.

Please remember that our government, in this process of creating a huge potential wave of under-30 super spreaders, injected them with a completely experimental serum. There is no data whatsoever on long term consequences. The reports of healthy people devastated and killed by these vaccines are in the thousands. Since we are routinely lied to, how much worse could it be? Possibly a lot worse; time will tell. God help us.

It has been said that the government screws up EVERYTHING it touches. Their record is clearly untarnished by covid.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: covid; government; vaccine
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1 posted on 09/22/2021 7:07:50 AM PDT by 70times7
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To: 70times7
studies also show that the “viral load” is the same between vaccinated and unvaccinated

There have been a lot of articles based on other studies that say vaxxed have a much higher viral load.

2 posted on 09/22/2021 7:12:04 AM PDT by Pollard (Some people like to argue just to argue.)
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To: 70times7

Yes.

For every article posted here about a person who’s not wanted the vaccine, then dying, there is at least one similar story about a person who’s wanted the vaccine then dying.


3 posted on 09/22/2021 7:12:29 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: 70times7
Are Unvaxed Deaths Touted to Avoid the Other End of the Bell Curve? Yes.


4 posted on 09/22/2021 7:15:07 AM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: 70times7
She says 30 of 35 hospitalized patients had been fully vaccinated.

“THESE PATIENTS DESERVE TO BE HEARD” -VAERS WHISTLEBLOWER

https://thehighwire.com/videos/these-patients-deserve-to-be-heard-vaers-whistleblower/

5 posted on 09/22/2021 7:19:18 AM PDT by G Larry (Those destroying the Constitution must demonize those who would defend it.)
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To: 70times7
I keep going back to one fact I've read somewhere, that Israel - the most vaccinated nation on the planet - has 8x more COVID patients than one year ago.

Here is a link to a graph that shows this (also if you look at and work with this graph a little, and see how very low the deaths are to infections, any fear of COVID will be greatly reduced).

https://www.science.co.il/medical/coronavirus/Statistics.php

6 posted on 09/22/2021 7:21:26 AM PDT by The Duke (Search for 'Sydney Ducks' and understand what is needed.)
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To: 70times7
This is false because covid ICUs are necessarily separate and typically set up away from regular ICU units.

Can anyone verify this?

7 posted on 09/22/2021 7:21:41 AM PDT by jeffc (I'm a Patriot, and the media are our enemy)
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To: 70times7
These studies also show that the “viral load” is the same between vaccinated and un-vaccinated.

There is agreement that the vaccinated have reduced symptoms and recover more quickly.

Neither of these two statements are true.

The reports I have read about indicate that the viral load on vaccinated person's is higher than that of the un-vaccinated. And that those vaccinated for original Covid19 get more ill with the new infection under the Delta Varriant, than do those that are un-vaccinated. And that those who recover from Covid without the vaccination, have immunity that is 27 times more effective and that immunity helps them overcome the varriants.

We have from the beginning been lied to constantly by the "experts" at CDC, NIH (Fauci), the AMA, the Lying Press and the Fed Gov in General. None of the released stats are reliable for a number of reasons. This has never been about public health, it is supporting an undisclosed political agenda.

8 posted on 09/22/2021 7:27:13 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: jeffc

Just “google” ...

For example (one of many):

Brodkey said the 12-bed COVID-19 ICU is on a separate floor from the regular 17-bed ICU.

The COVID-19 ICU is an airborne isolation ward where it is safe to put COVID patients, he said.

https://www.hngnews.com/milton_courier/article_718e7c91-9739-533c-848b-ffdeaed0e465.html


9 posted on 09/22/2021 7:29:35 AM PDT by Qiviut (Faith=the antidote to fear. Be good to those you love,eat good food,get outdoors,be well everybody.)
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Thanks, FRiend!


10 posted on 09/22/2021 7:32:42 AM PDT by jeffc (I'm a Patriot, and the media are our enemy)
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To: Texas Fossil

There is also Antibody dependent enhancement


11 posted on 09/22/2021 7:40:02 AM PDT by Frohickey
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To: 70times7

Mutations are an adaptation to host immunity. If anything, it’d be the vaccinated and previously infected causing variants. Variants can more easily infect previously immune. No need to mutate if it can keep infecting as it did originally.

Mutations occur at a certain rate and there is more than one strain. To avoid all disease, you would have to immunize everyone on the planet for every strain within a month or so. Not quite possible.

Even if it were, since the animals act as a reservoir too, you’d have to immunize all of them.

Covid here to stay as with all the other pathogens and risks in life out there.

Welcome to earth.


12 posted on 09/22/2021 7:42:18 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Frohickey

“There is also Antibody dependent enhancement”

Yes, Dr. Robert W. Malone has explained that very accurately. It was a known issue from all previous Corrona virus tests. None of this is unknown in the research field. But it is a question of money talking and Federal Agencies following an undisclosed political agenda.

Informed Consent is in our Federal Law, but it is not being provided for. Why? Huge money talks Loudly.


13 posted on 09/22/2021 8:01:02 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: 70times7

Telling the truth is restricted and punished


14 posted on 09/22/2021 8:01:03 AM PDT by no-to-illegals ( The enemy has US surrounded. God’s speed FRiends)
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To: 70times7
"the recent revelation that more than 40% of the people hospitalized by covid were actually hospitalized for something else but tested positive while there."

Would you happen to have a link to this information? I know some real die-hard Branch COVIDians who could stand to see it.

15 posted on 09/22/2021 8:01:30 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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16 posted on 09/22/2021 8:06:33 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: Chode

That will take place soon LOL


17 posted on 09/22/2021 8:09:54 AM PDT by no-to-illegals ( The enemy has US surrounded. God’s speed FRiends)
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To: no-to-illegals

you know it’s coming...


18 posted on 09/22/2021 8:11:38 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: jeffc

The statement that Covid ICU beds are separate from Regular ICU beds is false. My wife is a respiratory therapist in a Texas Hospital and I can tell you they only have so many ICU rooms for everybody. These are highly specialized rooms.


19 posted on 09/22/2021 8:29:58 AM PDT by Texas Patriot61 (Gun control is being able to hit your target.)
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To: Texas Patriot61; Qiviut

See qiviut’s post

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3997132/posts?page=9#9


20 posted on 09/22/2021 8:55:22 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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