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Book Review: Victor Davis Hanson's "The Second World Wars"
self | 7/19/2020 | LS

Posted on 07/19/2020 6:34:40 PM PDT by LS

Victor Davis Hanson is, I think, now regarded as one of the two or three most important military historians alive. This is largely because of his incredible book "Carnage and Culture," but also his books on generals and battles "Soul of Battle," "Ripples of Battle," and his numerous columns during the Iraq War. I'll never forget one of his best columns was "I'd hate to be fighting us."

His latest foray, however, isn't up to the same quality, despite a massive 529 pages of densely packed text. Its strengths:

*It is well researched with extensive notes and bibliography. That said, there were some rather troublesome omissions, including a series of papers and arguments about the effectiveness of US infantry in Europe in Parameters; a key paper by Evan Huelfer on the horrendous casualties of WW I and how that affected US military doctrine; Blumenson's book on Kasserine (since Hanson discusses the battle so much); Addison and Calder's essay collection on GIs in Europe (esp Paul Reid's essay); Ronald Spector's "Eagle Against the Sun"; Stephen Biddle on military power; the very best book on Midway by Parshall and Tully; and the Ross/Sherry debates about strategic bombing in WW II. Just to name a few. No book on WW II in the Pacific, for example can ignore either Spector or Parhsall/Tully.

*Perhaps the most important point of the book is Hanson's understanding of the relative strength and weakness of both the Axis and the Allies on the eve of war. As he puts it, "Between the two wars, the European democracies . . .sought to explain the horrors of the Great War within a general theory of Western erosion." (28) Almost every public proclamation, he notes, "that the Allies had voiced in the 1920s and early 1930s projected at least an appearance of timidity that invited war from what were still relatively weak powers."(23) Indeed, Depression era democracies lacked confidence that their industrial potential would ever recover. This was a BIG DEAL, and Hanson is right to emphasize it.

Equally important, Hanson notes early that few in the British government especially understood that in Hitler they weren't dealing with British gentlemen. Anthony Eden said "You know, the hardest thing for me during that time was to convince my friends that Hitler and Mussolini were quite different from the British businessman or country gentlemen as regards their psychology, motivations, and mode of action."

Here, one could (but Hanson does not, because it isn't his focus) make the point of the "average" American and today's leftists. Most people have difficulty grasping that the Marxist whackadoodle liberal of today's BLM or fascist so-called antifa is in reality someone who very much hates everything about this country. As Rush Limbaugh constantly explains, the concept was utterly foreign to him until about a few years ago---that AMERICANS could hate the USA so much.

Perhaps Hanson's greatest insight is that the Nazis and Japanese both thought of themselves as "supermen," when in fact the real supermen were the American industrial workers, the British sailors, and the Red infantrymen. The first two in particular thought less highly of themselves at the beginning of the war. The Germans DID achieve a 3:1 kill ratio in the East, but they needed 20:1.

*Numbers. Hanson knows the numbers, and he isn't afraid to let you know that he knows. He regales you with constant repeated references to Soviet tank production, American air construction, and casualties.

*Insight in dividing the war into "wars." This is perhaps the most important aspect of the book, for Hanson sees that World War II was actually two wars fought by two separate groups of allies against two different Axis alignments. On one side, the Atlantic/European front, the US, Great Britain, and the USSR battled Germany and Italy; in the Pacific, the US, China, and Great Britain, though hardly ever coordinated in their efforts, fought Japan. Germany and Italy almost never even consulted the Japanese, let alone worked in tandem with them. Would it have turned out differently if the Axis were as "allied" as the Allies? Doubtful.

*Production won the war. While Hanson pays plenty of due respect to the massive Russian army efforts, it seems clear that the Arsenal of Democracy not only made possible much of the Red Army's tactical mobility from 1942 on, but that the Americans and British posed enough of a threat to fracture the German effort.

Here I don't think Hanson goes nearly far enough. In December 1941, when Moscow hung by a thread, 85% of the heavy tanks outside the city were British or American. At the key battle of Kursk, wherein the Nazis still might have attained a draw in the east, the Soviets won not because of the number or superiority of their tanks, but because the feared Luftwaffe tank-killers were driven off by the Red Air Force. That, in turn, ONLY occurred because the Germans were busy spending 30% (!!) of their entire air and GROUND military resources on the anti-bombing campaign in the west. I once calculated that had the Luftwaffe had 30% more air at Kursk, it would have easily dominated the skies, and, in due course, the German armor would have taken the ground.

While Hanson admits this, he does so almost in passing. The Air War in the West was key because it totally destroyed the Luftwaffe---not by blowing up the factories on the ground, but by using the bombers as bait to shoot down German planes in the skies. By mid-1943 when long-range Allied fighters accompanied the bombers, the bombing runs because roach motels, sucking in the German fighters and destroying them. By D-Day, Germany was so overwhelmed in the skies that it put up NO air resistance over the beaches.

*Toward the end, Hanson rightly notes the differences in command and structure between democratic armies that are sent to war by consensus of the public and Axis armies sent by tyrants. He notes that ironically the Axis armies, excluding the Italians, often fought to the death incurring horrific casualties, while Americans and British surrendered large fortresses rather than fight to the end (Singapore and Corregidor).

This also, however, involves a view of human life that strangely Hanson, who made the point beautifully in "Carnage and Culture," ignores. Free men have faith in their societies and their armies. Living to fight another day is preferable to hari kari. At the same time, Hanson correctly points out that the % of American prisoners who died at the hands of the Germans was low, but the % of Russians who died at German hands was extremely high. At the same time, both German and Japanese POWs had a very low death rate in American prisons (1-2%).

This marked another important statistic, as contrary to Howard Zinn, who saw the Americans as little different from the Nazis, in fact in this one statistic alone one could see that the Americans were ENTIRELY different, and were not (in most cases) the monsters that either the Germans or Japanese could be.

*Finally, Hanson is good about pointing out oddities and relative numbers. For example, the British fleet added more merchant and surface warships added during the war than the Axis powers combined. He also notes that Hitler failed to appreciate the inherent strength of the American and British navies and how that (Mahan-like) allowed them total flexibility as to when, and where, to strike.

WEAKNESSES:

*In addition to some of the things mentioned above, there is one glaring weakness and it is that the book is too long by at least 1/3. Hanson is infuriatingly repetitive. An editor should have chopped this. There are plenty of gems here, but they are buried in far too many repetitions.

*Most important of all, Hanson fails to understand the inherent deeply imbedded war aim of Hitler, which was not particularly to win a military battle with either the West or the Soviets, but to destroy the Jews as a force on planet earth. Only this explains his insanity of continuing to divert war resources to killing Jews; only this explains his otherwise insane invasion of Russia; only this explains whey he thought (see "Hitler's Second Book") that war with the US was inevitable---despite, as Hanson points out, any short term weapons to attack the US.

To Hitler, FDR and Stalin were bookends of the Jewish bolshevik menace and (he actually said this) even if Germany was wiped off the map, if he succeeded in eradicating the Jews Germany would have earned history's great applause. Indeed, Hanson virtually ignores Hitler's anti semitic motivations (and his bibliography likewise shows a distinct absence of literature on who Hitler was or on the Hitlerian mind---for example, Daniel Goldhagen, "Hitler's Willing Executioners") or Ron Rosenbaum's "Explaining Hitler"). Understanding Hitler's race motivations is absolutely critical to understanding why he ignored the military drawbacks of invading Russia.

In short (or, "in sum" as Hanson must write 50 times), this is an informative book, but not a critical one to understanding World War II. To put it in a modernism, "The juice isn't worth the squeeze."


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To: laplata

Lots of untold story’s, fr member leakers grand dada was IRA leaker and he staged the air raids on Germany from Britain


41 posted on 07/19/2020 8:39:13 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Good points.

Dad had some interesting stories. Some sad, some funny.


42 posted on 07/19/2020 8:41:34 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: mylife

Eaker


43 posted on 07/19/2020 8:42:50 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

A FReepers grandaddy was Ira Eaker? That’s cool.


44 posted on 07/19/2020 8:46:14 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: mylife

What did you do in Libya?


45 posted on 07/19/2020 8:53:25 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: yarddog

Wow! The rona doesn’t even compare!


46 posted on 07/19/2020 9:01:08 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: laplata

the surveillance prior to the attack, you know, get in get out...


47 posted on 07/19/2020 9:35:13 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: laplata

the surveillance prior to the attack, you know, get in get out...


48 posted on 07/19/2020 9:35:14 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: LS
there is one glaring weakness and it is that the book is too long by at least 1/3. Hanson is infuriatingly repetitive. An editor should have chopped this. There are plenty of gems here, but they are buried in far too many repetitions.

Years ago some Publishers would buy books in standard sizes... writers had to meet the number of pages...which caused the puffing out effect you see in some older books. Apparently book bulk allowed them to charge more.

49 posted on 07/19/2020 9:39:35 PM PDT by GOPJ (Leo Terrell - Michael Shellenberger - Stephen Hsu - Bari Weiss - TRUTH: the new HATE SPEECH)
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To: mylife

Was that when Reagan hit Kadaffi?


50 posted on 07/19/2020 9:45:45 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: LS

Victor Davis Hanson is a giant, towering in his field.
And it’s amusing that “LS” even attempted “to review” his effort – obviously without a basic knowledge of the WW2 era and, consequently, being misinformed and, thus, not able to comprehend it. This “review” shows, that LS’ knowledge of history probably does not precede his birth date; and he has everything to learn from VDH, and VDH has nothing to learn from “LS”.


51 posted on 07/19/2020 9:47:15 PM PDT by leopud
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To: LS

I’m a WW2 buff too and I think the juice is definitely worth the squeeze on this one.

VDH takes a different look at the war from statistics/numbers perspective.

The last paragraph basically gets it.


52 posted on 07/19/2020 9:50:22 PM PDT by Sapwolf (Talkers are usually more articulate than doers, since talk is their specialty. -Sowell)
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To: LS

Thank you for the excellent review. I appreciate your analysis. You are correct to say that “World War II was actually two wars.” The American soldiers in both Europe and the Pacific were heroic and awe-inspiring.

One suggestion. I assert that it is false to state that the goal was not “to destroy the Jews as a force on planet earth,” since Hitler’s goal was to corrupt every human person on earth. Hitler’s goal was Satan’s goal: to prevent people from pleasing the Father through His Son. Proof: Hitler had a statue of Nietzsche. Thanks again. Awesome review.


53 posted on 07/19/2020 10:20:17 PM PDT by Falconspeed
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To: Sapwolf

You’re exactly right about how VDH presents it. It’s the best book on WW II that I’ve read.


54 posted on 07/19/2020 10:21:28 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

My father, a Polish Jew, fought in the Red Army (severely wounded at Stalingrad, which actually saved his life...long story). He witnessed a low grade Soviet Officer (captain?/LT?) shoot 3 Red Army soldiers dead on the spot for looting (’44?). No trial, no hesitation, no repercussions, no big deal.

Entirely different universe than the West.


55 posted on 07/19/2020 10:50:00 PM PDT by TigerHawk (The Raised Middle Finger in the Clenched Fist of the World)
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To: LS
Good review. I know how much you respect VDH, and it shows in the review - the mild criticism from a friend.

I have listened to Dan Carlin's ‘Supernova in the East” and many of his podcasts about WWI. It does seem difficult for an avowed leftist to apologize for the West, yet Carlin does a good job on the subject.

I will be getting VDH’s book as soon as finances improve, and will gladly add it to my VDH collection.

56 posted on 07/19/2020 10:54:58 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: mylife

And MacArthur far too much...but he had a PR staff of close to 60,000, or there abouts. Walked through the surf when he returned to the Philippines 74 times before they ran out of film so he had to settle for one of those takes. Went to his grave bitching about that.


57 posted on 07/19/2020 11:03:12 PM PDT by TigerHawk (The Raised Middle Finger in the Clenched Fist of the World)
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To: BRL

Geopolitik.


58 posted on 07/19/2020 11:13:09 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: LS

Thank you for sharing


59 posted on 07/20/2020 12:07:50 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: LS

The book follows on the course he did for Hillsdale. The structure of a dozen lectures is not the structure of a book and that might account for some of the criticism.

Mrs. jimfree (a Ph.D. historian herself) and I both thoroughly enjoyed the series of lectures. We have no immediate plans to read the book.


60 posted on 07/20/2020 2:37:12 AM PDT by jimfree (My19 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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