Posted on 07/07/2020 8:51:40 AM PDT by grundle
At least since March, and perhaps even earlier, Dr. Vladimir Zelenko from New York has been claiming to have successfully treated COVID-19 patients with a triple combination of hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and azithromycin.
In March, Snopes rated Dr.Zelenko’s claim as “unproven.”
On May 8, medrxiv.org reported:
Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin plus zinc vs hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin alone: outcomes in hospitalized COVID-19 patients
In univariate analyses, zinc sulfate increased the frequency of patients being discharged home, and decreased the need for ventilation, admission to the ICU, and mortality or transfer to hospice for patients who were never admitted to the ICU.
On May 12, Spectrum News channel 1 from New York reported:
Researchers at NYU’s Grossman School of Medicine found patients given the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine along with zinc sulphate and the antibiotic azithromycin were 44 percent less likely to die from the coronavirus.
The study looked at the records of 932 COVID-19 patients treated at local hospitals with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin.
More than 400 of them were also given 100 milligrams of zinc daily.
Researchers said the patients given zinc were one and a half times more likely to recover, decreasing their need for intensive care.
And I think this next one is the most important one so far.
On July 3, preprints.org reported:
COVID-19 Outpatients – Early Risk-Stratified Treatment with Zinc Plus Low Dose Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin: A Retrospective Case Series Study
Of 335 positively PCR-tested COVID-19 patients, 127 were treated with the triple therapy. 104 of 127 met the defined risk stratification criteria and were included in the analysis. In addition, 37 treated and eligible patients who were confirmed by IgG tests were included in the treatment group (total N=141). 208 of the 335 patients did not meet the risk stratification criteria and were not treated. After 4 days (median, IQR 3-6, available for N=66/141) of onset of symptoms, 141 patients (median age 58 years, IQR 40-60; 73% male) got a prescription for the triple therapy for 5 days. Independent public reference data from 377 confirmed COVID-19 patients of the same community were used as untreated control. 4 of 141 treated patients (2.8%) were hospitalized, which was significantly less (p<0.001) compared with 58 of 377 untreated patients (15.4%) (odds ratio 0.16, 95% CI 0.06-0.5). Therefore, the odds of hospitalization of treated patients were 84% less than in the untreated group. One patient (0.7%) died in the treatment group versus 13 patients (3.5%) in the untreated group (odds ratio 0.2, 95% CI 0.03-1.5; p=0.16). There were no cardiac side effects. Conclusions: Risk stratification-based treatment of COVID-19 outpatients as early as possible after symptom onset with the used triple therapy, including the combination of zinc with low dose hydroxychloroquine, was associated with significantly less hospitalizations and 5 times less all-cause deaths.
That one is the best news so far.
If this is really true, then imagine how many lives could have been saved if more people had paid attention to Dr. Zelenko back in March.
And imagine how much of the lockdown, unemployment, educational disruptions, and other stresses could have been avoided.
I have also noticed that, for some weird reason, there is a huge political divide over this. Back in March and April, every single source that I found that supported Dr. Zelenko was right wing.
So, either conservatives have fallen for a bogus conspiracy theory, or, liberals have ignored a real world, successful treatment for COVID-19.
So which is is?
Have conservatives fallen for a bogus conspiracy theory?
Or, have liberals ignored a real world, successful treatment for COVID-19?
President Trump should issue a statement saying battery acid does not cure covid-19 and that no one should ingest it, for any reason.
That would begin to eliminate some liberals.
Or, have liberals ignored a real world, successful treatment for COVID-19?
I'll make it simple for Dan: No, Yes.
And I don’t see how Zelenko’s claims - sound or unsound - constitute a “conspiracy theory.”
Orange Man Bad.
Texas doctor uses Inhaled steroids.
Inhaled steroids for Covid-19?
A Texas Doctors solution. 5 minutes of nebulizing.
https://acwt.wpengine.com/dr-richard-bartlett-acwt-interview-7-2-20/
And ... far and away most important of all ... obama or Clinton would have been celebrated as Super Heroes(!) for inventing this wonder drug treatment regime and sharing it with the world!
Oh, how blessed we would be then ... *heavy sigh* ... if only ...
If only we had not elected ... poorly.
There is a political party that is more likely to believe in science and it isn’t the Democrat Party.
Clearly liberals have ignored a real world, successful treatment for COVID-19.
But who can get it? I can’t find a doctor to prescribe HCQ. Pharmacies have HCQ but will not provide it without a prescription. Can President Trump’s FDA, or HHS, or some other agency declare that HCQ be available over-the-counter?
I have liberal friends who are doctors. They brag about having their own stash of HCQ for themselves and their families in case they are hit by COVID-19. Meanwhile, they have no problem deriding DJT for touting HCQ. I don’t know how they can live with their own hypocrisy.
“I can’t find a doctor to prescribe HCQ”
Take a trip to Honduras, or somewhere that malaria is ever-present, and I’m sure you’ll have no problem finding a doctor who would prescribe it.
Liberalism seems to be grounded in emotion. At an emotive level they have taken sides - and that's that.
Many liberals can solve day to day problems. However on matters that have an ideological aspect, they have lost their capacity to reason.
Some of the problem lies in mandated views. You must believe this. You can't believe that. You must believe in evolution. You must not be a racist. It's an interesting pairing because, early on, evolution and racism were paired together.
One reason to believe in evolution was a consideration of the races. In Darwin's time it was true that the sun never set on the British empire. Britain, Europe, the United States and Australia, were so far beyond the peoples of Africa and Asia. It seemed to many that we had direct evidence that some races were more evolved than others.
I do not believe that biological differences between races are very great. This might be a valid academic question. Is there an academy where it can be asked? Few, if any. You MUST believe in evolution. You MUST NOT be a racist. Mandates such as these short-circuit rational thinking.
Another problem is a complete reliance on intellectual authority. If and “an expert says,” or “science says,” then all reasoning stops. They simply check their brains at the door. They'll pick them up as they leave (the conversation).
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