Posted on 04/28/2020 11:21:15 AM PDT by USA Conservative
The Denver Police Department arrested Jafar Partowmah on April 26 at the Capitol for openly carrying a firearm.
The man was carrying two pistols. He is a permitted carrier. He was on the sidewalk and not starting anything. He was not brandishing or threatening.
His shirt blew in the wind and the cops saw his weapon.
He was arrested around 2 p.m. in the 1400 block of Lincoln Street.
A protest was held at the Capitol Sunday because of the COVID-19 closures.
Video below:
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Colorado is an “open-carry” state, with some exceptions. Denver generally prohibits the open carry of firearms. Certain people are forbidden from carrying a gun anywhere. (Such as convicted felons, minors, or drug addicts.)
But arresting someone because the wind blew his shirt and they saw his gun is insanity! Just reporting on this so we can get more info on what happened. If it is in fact how it’s stated, pretty scary. Probable cause (wind blowing a shirt up or something and seeing a weapon) allows them, officers, to question, not arrest just because. If the man was not going after LE or causing other trouble, a simple questioning and clarification/show the permit would have been the end of it. If it’s in fact how it’s stated here, this is an abuse of power. Time will tell once more info is released.
I don’t blame the cops. They have to follow orders. It’s the corrupt administrations that tell them to shred all our rights and turn the state into a fascist enclave.
the one video showed him being arrested- his shirt, a T-Shirt type shirt- was tucked into his pants all while he was being taken down- So I’m at this point- until i see other evidence- doubting the ‘His shirt blew up in the wind” UNLESS he had an over-shirt on that got ripped off?
Seems like there’s possibly more to the story right now- the video only shows him getting arrested- not what happened before- if anything-
I don’t know about this particular case. So my post here is not meant to apply to it.
As a general comment, I know some concealed-carry guys who will “accidentally” reveal their concealed weapons. I guess it’s some sort of ego thing.
If your gun is supposed to be concealed, conceal it. It’s your responsibility, period.
The Solzhenitsyn Line is a very dangerous line to cross.
We are getting closer:
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?
Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?...
The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
And opens them up to charges of brandishing or disturbing the peace, at the discretion of the officer. Open carry is not legal in Denver. If Bob434 is correct that his tshirt was tucked in, even if he had an overshirt that was blown open, that's a problem. At the discretion of the officer. No disrespect to officers, but I'd rarely act in a way which requires their discretion, particularly in a liberal urban area.
That might seem like common sense, which I wouldn’t depend on, but open carry being illegal in Denver he put himself at the mercy of the officer’s discretion, the law outside Denver being irrelevant.
how do you younger folks handle all this commie hand hanging over our country.. ready to seize power at any chance.
i come from where churches were respected.. schools had prayer.. people got along.. did deals with a handshake.. your word was valuable. our doors were not locked.. kids played outside in the neighborhood.. we didn’t play internet games and got along withou cell phones. we ate around the table as family and we all worked as kids and on into adulthood.
it seems there is no foundation for today’s young people. how do you do today’s living?
It is hard to know exactly what happened. However, the police had better be careful - the left already hates them, and they are quickly losing the support on the right of many whose eyes have been forever opened that the police are not their friends.
[[i come from where churches were respected.. schools had prayer.. people got along.. did deals with a handshake.. your word was valuable. our doors were not locked.. kids played outside in the neighborhood.. we didn’t play internet games and got along withou cell phones. we ate around the table as family and we all worked as kids and on into adulthood.]]
That America is largely gone sadly- I grew up then too- and it was awesome- Really Truly awesome- right up until i would say the 90’s- then things really started going downhill rapidly-
(it had been brewing for awhile before then- but right around then is when the left started really ramping up their Anti-Americanism, and shoving their sick liberal agenda on everyone full steam ahead-
Then barry came along with his socialist agenda on full display, and that’s when things got real bad real quick- and now the left’s sick twisted Satanic socialism is so entrenched in society that it will be very very hard to correct it without masses screaming and fighting and kicking every step of the way- all the “Free stuff for me but not thee” crowds are so connected to the government now that they will fiercely oppose any efforts to get them off now)
[[how do you do today’s living?]]
Some families today do it by sitting on a couch next to each other, texting each other- Sadly
Today people get arrested or not wearing a mask- that would have been totally unheard of back when we were growing up- The people wouldn’t have stood for that kind of fascism - There would have been immediate large protests-
Thankfully we are seeing some protests around the country- so all is not lost-
“He is a permitted carrier.”
Denver has an open-carry prohibition, which means you cannot openly carry a weapon anywhere in Denver, including at the Capitol. He broke the law along with another unrelated arrest of someone else for the same thing. He should have done his research before he walked into the city and he would have known the carrying of a weapon was not going to be allowed. And having it seen by law enforcement accidentally is worse.
rwood
“I don’t blame the cops. They have to follow orders. “
I do.
There is a foundation for today's yutes- They are ALL taught that murdering unborn, and recently born children is fine and honorable. No matter the beliefs of their parents, the schools are the primary teachers of moral values.
Just following orders didn’t work as a defense at Nuremberg and it doesn’t work here. You can’t make exceptions because ‘the US isn’t NAZI Germany’, either. The concept of “just following orders” is anathema to liberty, no matter when or where the excuse is used.
Those links seem to require an account. I can’t view them
I saw the video which showed a man on the ground being arrested by the Police. I heard a lot of shouting which sounded like “sovereign citizens” protesters or “anti-fa”.
It’s hard to tell the difference, sometimes.
What I didn’t see was why the confrontation happened in the first place.
Did the police shout” GUN” and then run over and tackle the guy or did they walk over calmly and ask for his ID and CCW card.
Some people start confrontations by telling the police they are doing nothing wrong and refuse to show anything ( I mean I have a 2nd Amd. right to carry, OK.)
But of course the police won’t know if your a felon or have a CCW card if you refuse to show them ID.
The police do have some responsibility to make judgement calls.
If you went to eat out with your family and saw a group of muslim men get out of a van all armed and wearing head scarfs and start toward the restaurant you might want a nearby police officer to contact the group to see what was happening. I mean you wouldn’t start shouting at the cops for being racist, islamaphobes because some incidents can cause alarms going off in rational people.
Even if the group of men were all legally armed and no felons in the group you would expect them to co-operate with the police and show ID’s.
I don’t know what went on in Denver but I’d like to hear more before jumping on the police about trampoling rights.
“i come from where churches were respected.. schools had prayer.. people got along.. did deals with a handshake.. your word was valuable. our doors were not locked.. kids played outside in the neighborhood.. we didn’t play internet games and got along withou cell phones. we ate around the table as family and we all worked as kids and on into adulthood.”
I remember those days.
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