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Waste From Solar Panels: 300 Times That of Nuclear Power
wattsupwiththat.com ^ | June 29, 2017 | David Middleton

Posted on 09/14/2019 12:04:00 PM PDT by grundle

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To: manc

I told a story here the other day. About 10 years ago a nesting pair of bald eagles moved into the area around our local lake. They have bred and produced successive generations. About two weeks ago an adolescent eagle was found injured near the lake and subsequently died. Everyone is running around with their hair on fire trying to figure out how the eagle came to be injured. Seriously it’s a big thing. None of these geniuses looked over their shoulder at the giant wind farm that went up two years ago. really it’s a mystery how this happened.

On top of that the wind farm was permitted on a “pristine ridgeline” despite a 50 year moratorium on ridgeline development. Additionally the development took place in the largest upland Beech stand in New England. For those unaware a Beech stand is basically one living thing like western poplar. The forage for wildlife a stand like this produces would boggle you mind. But because this is the left’s religion all the environmental protections were suspended.

I can’t even relate to you what this means and my anger at the left for suspending regulations for their pet while grinding the rest of us to dust to get permits.

Now they are building two new big photovoltaic farms in my town. We get maybe 9 hrs of daylight in winter months, last winter we went 7 solid weeks with no break in the overcast. It’s totally asinine


21 posted on 09/14/2019 1:02:19 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Oldexpat
https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/city/2019/08/27/why-sioux-falls-landfill-has-crack-down-dumping-minnesotas-wind-turbine-blades/2125629001/


22 posted on 09/14/2019 1:14:12 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: VTenigma

This is complete moron nonsense

Solar panels are comprised of silicon glass and aluminum that is all

There have been in the past other solar technologies is but they’ve all gone by the wayside- cadmium telluride is one. Amorphous silicon another

NASA uses gallium arsenide

The millions and millions of solar panels that are out there are all crystalline silicon doped with aluminum and boron ( minuscule amounts ) with very rare exception

All of them. Every brand. Every country. All silicon Silver tracks. High tech glass cover. Aluminum frame.

This is not even slightly debatable.

If you post stupidity like this expect being bitch slapped by this Berkeley engineer


23 posted on 09/14/2019 1:32:35 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: manc

The bats the windmills kill go uncounted, but the estimate is the kill is far higher than for birds ... bats eat flying insects like gnats, mosquitoes, various flies, and other disease carrying critters.


24 posted on 09/14/2019 1:34:29 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: grundle

Furthermore there is no breakdown mechanism for silicon solar cells.

none

they will last hundreds of years

they have a 25 year warranty for anywhere on planet earth for 80% output after that 25 years

There is simply no argument against photovoltaics

none

And they are PRETTY !


25 posted on 09/14/2019 1:35:24 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: Truthoverpower

A Berkeley engineer should be smart enough to realize I’m not the OP, but I guess I overestimated the intelligence of anyone from “Berkeley” Oh yeah and by the way GFYS.


26 posted on 09/14/2019 1:49:03 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: VTenigma

It is the insanity of the left, and they will not take a step back and see the damage they have done. Instead they slap each other on the back saying how smart are they , when in reality these idiots are just too dumb to see how dumb they are.


27 posted on 09/14/2019 1:51:38 PM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: manc

Check out post 23 and give me your thoughts.


28 posted on 09/14/2019 1:55:35 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Paladin2
They're not small....

29 posted on 09/14/2019 2:37:56 PM PDT by Rio
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To: grundle

That’s why the left loves it.


30 posted on 09/14/2019 2:54:57 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: AbolishCSEU

sheesh. What a waste of money and materials.


31 posted on 09/14/2019 3:02:23 PM PDT by Karliner (Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28 Isa 17 "This is the end of the beginning" W Churchill)
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To: Truthoverpower

Sun don’t glow, power don’t flow and there is no way to store the energy created that does not include banks for batteries

In northern climes out of the same degree of sunlight on the panel as well as the daylight cycle as you go north the usability goes down for much of the year and only works effectively part of the year. As a component of a predictable grid component and cycle times to maintain available power versus demand they are not something to count on. Look at the rolling brownouts/blackouts in Calif, that are evidence that while additive and supplemental they will never be the primary component of a resilient grid structure. And the same goes for Wind power, I have been past the wind farms in the Palm Springs area many times and it is not as if they are all churning and burning, and neither are they in Tehachapi of elsewhere.

Last, the Enviro Nutz in Europe are finding out the hard way that solar panels are a part of but never a replacement for predictable and stable power. And I am not all that impressed by the Berzerkly degree, it used to be a good school but when you start telling everyone that because you graduated from there we all show bow and scrape I laugh

Good luck to you


32 posted on 09/14/2019 3:24:09 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: grundle
Geez, some people are so uninformed.

Several months ago AOC, in issue #69 of her weekly Green Bullshit News Letter, assured everyone that the waste from producing solar panels is eaten by Unicorns who digest it and produce Unicorn Pharts which provide additional energy.

33 posted on 09/14/2019 3:28:57 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Truthoverpower
"This is complete moron nonsense Solar panels are comprised of silicon glass and aluminum that is all There have been in the past other solar technologies is but they’ve all gone by the wayside- cadmium telluride is one. Amorphous silicon another NASA uses gallium arsenide The millions and millions of solar panels that are out there are all crystalline silicon doped with aluminum and boron ( minuscule amounts ) with very rare exception All of them. Every brand. Every country. All silicon Silver tracks. High tech glass cover. Aluminum frame. This is not even slightly debatable. If you post stupidity like this expect being bitch slapped by this Berkeley engineer"

Doing some quick research tells me you are way wrong. I'm seeing way way too many sources from both left leaning and right leaning sources saying these things contain significant quantities of heavy metals such as lead and cadmium and other toxic materials that are very difficult and expensive to recycle.

If you were correct I would be seeing the fact that modern solar panels contain only safe non toxic materials like silicone and aluminum. I'm not seeing anything of the kind. You are the only one making this claim and at this point I think you have no idea what you are talking about.

Please post some factual evidence that modern solar panels do not contain dangerous toxins and are not a disposal problem? Let's see it.

34 posted on 09/14/2019 4:19:59 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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