Posted on 07/02/2019 1:30:41 AM PDT by grundle
The people who live in NYC would disagree with you. :)
They pay China to accept it then China throws it back into the ocean. That's called recycling......LOL!
Political cronies generally own fake recycling companies and other “green” companies that get fawning admiration but return far less in value (and in some cases negative value) than they soak up from the free taxpayer money fountain
Plastics can be made to be UV degradable. Why aren’t they?
We were in Washington state a couple weeks back. If memory serves me...there was a billboard advising subjects residents to wash and dry their cans & bottles before depositing in the recycle bin. Just caught a glimpse of the billboard but I think there was another demand besides the two I mentioned.
Our local solid waste dept (NC) doesn't want you to bag your recyclables. Just toss your containers into the bin free-throw style. But, I figure...plastic garbage bags are recyclable too.
Sounds quite likely. Whenever I see a ‘ caught in China’ label on any seafood, I refuse to buy it - for those reasons. I envision the fish swimming in highly polluted water.
Actually, I won’t buy any food product from China. Unfortunately, we won’t know which individual ingredients in a pre-packaged food come from China tho ( just an example for explanation - the milled flour used to make ‘crackers’ or the high fructose corn syrup that’s in everything).
If they had the guts to incinerate the trash and use that heat to power turbines, it would be a great energy source.
“My city recently gave us big rolling trash and recycling bins.”
We have a gray 55gal bin for general garbage collected weekly. City passed out green 55gal bins years ago to replace the small red recycle tubs (which we got to keep)...with collection every two weeks. We were given the option of returning the green rollouts. I’m sure that window has passed. I grew to appreciate the green bin as it allows us to get rid of a lot of garbage. With the recycles going in the green bin, space in the gray bin is now freed up to get rid regular garbage PLUS lots of “non-standard/unapproved” garbage... rocks, dirt, stumps, paint cans, lumber, etc. Garbage guys and gals won’t see this stuff unless they’re forced to use the manual dumper on a replacement garbage truck as opposed to the big arm that reaches over and lifts the bin up to dump into the top-loader trucks. I’ve been safe so far...knock on wood. Seriously, I’ve gotten rid of several cubic yards of dirt.
Something like 80-90% of the oceanic garbage, comes from a few rivers, in Africa and Asia. So, for all your “no plastic straw” idiots... you won’t be stopping anything, other than making yourselves feel good.
When I bought my house it had a garbage compactor in it... I loved it... 1 bag (usually not even full) a week to deal with.... Wife decided she didn’t like it and took it out... now I have to deal with bags that overflow 64 gallon bin most weeks. I know it will be compacted in the truck and back at the dump... but garbage volume is really miniscule once its compacted. We are a house of 4 and compacted, a typical week, talking no more than a few cubic feet of waste.
We’re building a house in a SC county that doesn’t offer garbage collection. You carry your garbage to a collection/recycle yard...which, luckily, is relatively close. There will be a garbage compactor in the kitchen, for sure. The biggest, baddest one I can find.
Recently as in they changed the system to rolling cans.
If you read any number of recent articles on FR, you’ll see the absolute fallacy of curbside recycling. The cost is phenomenal and there is no where to put the recycled materials because there is no market for them. You waste time and resources, such as washing out garbage and lovingly placing garbage in the special bin only for it to end up in the same landfill.
In the past when I did play their silly game, I refused to waste water, which I pay for to wash out garbage.
There is some minor validity to aluminum, but virtually nothing else. There is no market for it.
Plus, landfills are now clean facilities. The methane is trapped and sold. There’s a landfill near me that’s nearing capacity and being turned into a park.
For many years, they actually put recyclables onto ships and wasted diesel fuel shipping garbage overseas. China and other countries are no overrun with recyclables from well meaning but gullible Americans. They refuse further deliveries because there’s simply nothing they can do with the garbage.
So, since it costs resources to get rid of it and there’s no market for the use of any of the trash here, what do you propose? I like the landfill idea and we just stop playing silly expensive feel good games.
Yea. My kids all moved out so we usually have plenty of extra space in our trash bin for some of that “special” stuff too
I recycle only because it’s there.
But yes it’s ridiculous. Most of this stuff cannot be recycled continuously. Even if it could the effort to do so outweighs the benefit. ROI stinks.
It gets worse because after China throws it back in the ocean, then Americans pay an army to fish it back out of the ocean and then brings it all back upon the shore and then we turn around and send it back to China to continue the recycling............?
I read that China does not want our recyclables because way too many non recyclable items are being tossed with it. This causes a sorting issue and makes it not worth the time or benefits.
Oh, and you don’t need to wash out the containers.
Of course it’s just a feel-good program so that affluent people can “do their part” to help “save the planet”. The fact that you’re charged to recycle shows it’s a scam. If the material was so valuable, you’d be paid for it.
We both agree. Here is our disconnect.
Much of that plastic coming from the rivers in Bangladesh and Vietnam were purchased from recyclers in the US.
Yes, much of our recycled plastic is shipped overseas where it is careless handled and ends up in those rivers and flowing into the ocean.
We are both right.
Basically stop recycling and put plastic in landfills. Problem solved.
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