[RoosterRedux]

Here's a good video in which Newt discusses the CWII and Prager's article:

Gingrich and Second Civil War Clip, Heritage Foundation, 1 25 2017

[Rumplemeyer]

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[thoughtomator]

the Left doesn’t oppose slavery and they don’t oppose concentration camps, and they don’t oppose unleashing nukes on American citizens either

people need to get this - they are playing for keeps and they operate on the rule of by any means necessary

[gattaca]

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[a fool in paradise]

The Left has been waging it for half a century. Same figures are still driving it.

John Kerry, Bernie Sanders, NOW, Black Panthers, Bill Ayers, straight line to the top of government, academia, media, and now corporations.

[RoosterRedux]

One of the big problems in CWII is that there are no geographical battle lines (except perhaps those drawn by the Left's protests on college campuses and city streets).

This time we have to figure out how to fight an ideological enemy on abstract battle fields unless and until we can force the battle out onto physical terrain.

This renders a traditional military approach useless initially.

It is a psyops war and, as yet, our side has no army except the ragtag string of conservative websites and speakers/thinkers.

We haven't even developed or considered the development of a command structure or how we will fight this war.

[Avalon Memories]

Liberalism — which was anti-left, pro-American and deeply committed to the Judeo-Christian foundations of America; and which regarded the melting pot as the American ideal, fought for free speech for its opponents, regarded Western civilization as the greatest moral and artistic human achievement and viewed the celebration of racial identity as racism — is now affirmed almost exclusively on the right and among a handful of people who don’t call themselves conservative.

Although I admire Dennis Prager, I have to vehemently disagree with him on the point he makes in the above paragraph. Throughout my entire 72 years, "liberal" and "liberalism" were the terms many communists and socialists used to hide behind. If Prager means the classical liberalism that grew out of the Enlightenment and which characterized the views of our Founders, then I could agree. But he clearly doesn't mean that.

I don't think there has ever been a period in their history when Democrats and those we today call "the Left" have ever been classical liberals. They have always been one flavor or another of Marxist. Today they are out of the closet probably because the self-avowed Marxist, Barack Obama, won the presidency twice.

[Lee'sGhost]

I would argue that we are fighting the first civil war, but otherwise the point is valid.

[DuncanWaring]

About the CWII Ping List

The CWII Ping List is short for Civil War II. It is NOT a list of people advocating another Civil War in America. It is a list of people who are interested in the parallels between the Civil War (or War Between the States, if you prefer) and our current situation, or more generally are noting the references to a 'coming Civil War' that are made in the press.

Of course sometimes this is merely a figure of speech, such as "The Tea Parties are fighting a civil war for the heart of the GOP". This would not merit a CWII ping.

On the other hand someone saying something like "The events in California are reminiscent of what happened in Yugoslavia in the period proceeding the Civil War" would merit a ping.

FR rules do not permit advocating for the overthrow of the Republic, and I am not aware of anyone doing so on the list. Still many do see that as the political climate worsens we may be heading in a direction that makes such a conflict all but inevitable, particularly if other avenues for resolving our differences are taken away. Such as widespread vote fraud by leftists making elections meaningless, or a small cadre of judges over-ruling all attempts to end destructive policies over the clear will of the people.

The correct keyword tag for the Civil War II ping list is "CWII". Please Freep Mail me to get on the list

[bramps]

The story listed above this one is about 5 year olds being taught about trangerderism.

We recently had a Governor openly advocate for infanticide and states are beginning to welcome abortion right up until birth.

The war is the same that has gone on forever:

Good vs. evil.

I recall an important message I heard long ago why God was so harsh in the Old Testament. And basically the answer was that God wanted to be very clear that there are rules humans need to follow if we are to exist in harmony. Rules decided only by God. And there are grave consequences if we don't follow those rules. God has been largely extinguished in our society. And we are simply seeing the consequences.

I know it won't fly with many here but I think the best thing we can do in the fight today is to study the word of God and try to impart it with actions and words whenever possible. Most certainly in the voting booth.

[Brooklyn Attitude]

You can’t have a civil war when only one side is fighting. B*tching and complaining is NOT fighting. Watching from your couch as your opponents trample everything you stand for with the intent to destroy your nation is NOT fighting.

There will be NO Civil War II. I can’t even imagine what the left could do that would get a massive number of Normals to attend a demonstration, let alone actually physically resist.

[jimjohn]

Gee, and I recall getting ripped for saying this over a years ago. See tagline.

[Lurker]

Dear Mr. Prager,

See my tag line.

L

[kabar]

Prager fails to mention the use of mass immigration as a primary weapon of the left to win this civil war. We have brought in 35 million legal permanent immigrants since 1990. This is the equivalent of the current population of Canada.

The Dems will become the permanent majority party within a decade if legal immigration continues at status quo levels.

[Vaquero]

Civil War? A Cold Civil War, yes. But the left takes potshots. They are allowed. We sit with hands tied.

I’m tired of this.

[joma89]

If you are not prepping for the time when this civil war goes hot, I recommend you start today.

JoMa

[mabarker1]

My $00.02 worth.

The demonratcommiescumbags physically attack Us on a daily basis, We all know this as fact. I’m not going to crunch numbers but will speculate that 1% of these attacks ACTUALLY have charges filed on them. We need to get that number up to 80+% !!!

I cite the Post here where the Guy in the MAGA cap was attacked in the Bar/Restaurant and He was not going to press Charges on the crazy demonratcommiescumbag. THE ONLY REASON AN ARREST WAS MADE IS the demonratcommiescumbag DID IT AGAIN IN FRONT OF THE POLICE!!! SO THE POLICE FILED CHARGES AND ARRESTED her demonratcommiescumbag A$$ !!!

Face it. Most of Our side ARE TOO NICE. WE MUST STOP BEING SO NICE TO THE demonratcommiescumbags !!!

My suggestion is that when We are out in Public We have Body Cameras ie: a GoPro or one of those sold on TV. Have Our Cell Phone READY to record. There are Apps that upload to a Server incase of Phone destruction or erasure by the demonratcommiescumbags or sympathetic police.

Many of Us already CCW/CHL/OC/2A what ever you call it in your State. So be prepared for anything.

[GOPJ]

The third significant difference between the First and Second Civil Wars is that in the Second Civil war, one side has been doing nearly all the fighting. That is how it has been able to take over schools — from elementary schools, to high schools, to universities — and indoctrinate America’s young people; how it has taken over nearly all the news media; and how it has taken over entertainment media.

The reason progressives are winning is FOR THE SAME REASON DEMOCRATS ARE ON THE SAME PAGE EVERY DAY about news positions - - COHESIVE TALKING POINTS THAT COME FROM ONE GROUP, ONE SOURCE AND OFTEN ONE PERSON...

Here's what they discovered: that you don't have to change the minds of citizens on issues (that takes too long and requires too much money and time). What you do to win is change the minds of the people who make the top decisions. Target ONE editor at a newspaper. Learn everything about him - send him 'ideas' that he will accept. Manipulate decision makers ONE AT A TIME. That's how they're doing it...

[FLT-bird]

I would call what we are in right now a Cold Civil Wat. Unlike the War for Southern Independence, this actually is a civil war. It’s a fight about what narrative prevails - western civilization or nihilistic socialist utopianism - rather than a group of states seeking independence.

Ironically, I think it is the very thing that touched off the previous conflict - ie secession - which is the only means of preventing this one from becoming a hot war. The blue and red states need to separate. Some states need to break apart. The two “tribes” have completely different world views and nothing but contempt for each other.

[crz]

Was quite interesting here this past week in AZ. Over a foot of snow in an area that the prior record was 14 inches. That record was smashed.
That isnt the point. The point is that I went down to the local store to get a loaf of bread. Not one loaf in the entire valley was to be had. Not bottled water, no bread, eggs, bacon etc. But there was Juice, canned foods, etc. The power went off in a few areas and those people were at the local Gas stations getting coffee and bitching like hell.

I.E.-Civil war? Shut the power off to any particular city and in a week they will kill each other off for food. And all the while there is food all over the place.

BTW. I bought a couple packages of hamburger buns to cover. Went home and the wife and I baked some bread.

LOL!