he Commanded a sub, his RANK was Captain, O-6...
Posted on 01/12/2019 3:15:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
A Navy submarine commander was disciplined and demoted last summer after admitting to paying for female prostitutes while stationed in the Philippines.
Capt. Travis Zettel lost the confidence to command the attack submarine USS Bremerton and was relieved of duty back in August following the investigation...
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My friend’s grandfather said they would court martial soldiers who got venereal disease. WWI vet.
Rum and women have always been good for the sailors’ “morale”.
“Pay a hooker and you can go to prison, even in a country where it’s legal. “
Are you certain about this now in the UCMJ?
I’m having a hard time believing it.
I guess in his case, it really might have been cheaper to buy than to rent.
Okinawa has some beautiful landscape and duty there in the ‘60’s wasn’t so bad, especially since I was attached to the Army medical center - but I often thought about those who were there twenty years earlier and what they had to go through to subdue the island - just seeing the terrain they had to fight over and sometimes recapture time after time was enough to make you understand they were all heroes.....
There is a difference between a Captain 06 and a Captain of a ship/submarine. Those Captains are usually an 05 or Commander.
What was he charged with. Unless he is married, and was proven to have carnal knowledge with any of the women, the is no article under the UCMJ that bans the company of women.
The closest they can get is Article 134: General Article. This article of the Uniform Code of Military Justice is a catch-all for offenses that are not spelled out elsewhere. It covers all conduct that could bring discredit upon the armed forces that are not capital offenses. It allows them to be brought to court-martial.
But nailing a service member in a foreign port for something they can’t prove according to the news article I read, is a huge stretch.
rwood
I was on the treadmill listening to Proverbs today.
To bad the sub commander did not heed these words.
From Chapter 5...
1 My son, attend unto my wisdom, and bow thine ear to my understanding:
2 That thou mayest regard discretion, and that thy lips may keep knowledge.
3 For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:
4 But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a twoedged sword.
5 Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.
6 Lest thou shouldest ponder the path of life, her ways are moveable, that thou canst not know them.
7 Hear me now therefore, O ye children, and depart not from the words of my mouth.
8 Remove thy way far from her, and come not nigh the door of her house:
9 Lest thou give thine honour unto others, and thy years unto the cruel:
10 Lest strangers be filled with thy wealth; and thy labours be in the house of a stranger;
11 And thou mourn at the last, when thy flesh and thy body are consumed,
Chapter 6...
23 For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:
24 To keep thee from the evil woman, from the flattery of the tongue of a strange woman.
25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
26 For by means of a whorish woman a man is brought to a piece of bread: and the adulteress will hunt for the precious life.
27 Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his clothes not be burned?
28 Can one go upon hot coals, and his feet not be burned?
Chapter 7...
5 That they may keep thee from the strange woman, from the stranger which flattereth with her words.
6 For at the window of my house I looked through my casement,
7 And beheld among the simple ones, I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding,
8 Passing through the street near her corner; and he went the way to her house,
9 In the twilight, in the evening, in the black and dark night:
10 And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart.
11 (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house:
12 Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.)
13 So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him,
14 I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows.
15 Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee.
16 I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt.
17 I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon.
18 Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves.
19 For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey:
20 He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed.
21 With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him.
22 He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks;
23 Till a dart strike through his liver; as a bird hasteth to the snare, and knoweth not that it is for his life.
24 Hearken unto me now therefore, O ye children, and attend to the words of my mouth.
25 Let not thine heart decline to her ways, go not astray in her paths.
26 For she hath cast down many wounded: yea, many strong men have been slain by her.
27 Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.
he Commanded a sub, his RANK was Captain, O-6...
Articles 134-38 and 120c.
Well, Lisa Nowak got a slap on the wrist for doing some crazy stuff....
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She sent a smiling photo of herself to the Naval Academy Alumni Association for their magazine a few months back.
You’ll be glad to hear she’s doing well with the kids and has taken up bicycling as a hobby.
So, see, the system works. (sarcasm)
My last CO was a Commander, up tight to make Captain. Made my last two boomer patrols a pain in the arse (1974). He finally made it clear up to Rear Admiral and died of a heart attack jogging around the sub base in New London. My CO before him liked to hit the beach and go steaming at the Officers Club. We enlisted types had a lot more leeway in our partying than the officers. It ain’t the same as it used to be.
A heterosexual man and/or woman would be placing themselves at risk today in the military at this time.
A Christian going into the military these days may want to consider it as going into the field; it’s certainly as depraved in the military these days as going into the early days of the Church!
Nope, go see the photos.
Navy captain is any rank in charge of the operation of a ship.
“As I was a-walking down Paradise Street, T’me!
A handsome young damsol I happened to meet,
Give me some room to blow the man down!”
“I took this fair maid for a walk,
Mark well what I do say.
I gave her some gin and didn’t she talk...”
“She was a nice girl, a proper girl, but one of the rovin’ kind!”
Enlisted men on Liberty were always allowed a certain … licence. Officers were expected to make more discreet arrangements. The Commander was not discreet.
I’ll just speak for me In the 1970’s. (MM1SS). In Spain the Spanish sailors got paid less than a third what I got. The working girls went home with our money and the Spanish boys money. They new the score and so did we. This CO spent money partying with some crap shipmates. One of the rules of submarines. I surface we all surface. You don’t have to like the guy next to you but you gotta pray he does his job right.
His rank was O-4, Commander, but he was the "Captain" (the skipper) of the submarine. Even an Ensign or LT-JG is referred to as "Captain" when they are in command of a vessel.
The rank of Captain (full-bird) is O-6, not always in command of a vessel.
The "Captain" of a carrier is usually an Admiral.
Oops, His rank was O-5, Commander
The Captain of an aircraft carrier is a Captain (06) Admirals do not command individual ships, they command several ships, such as a carrier battle group.
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