Posted on 12/28/2018 5:03:09 PM PST by grundle
That was the king of TDS meltdowns! LOL!
Why unfortunately??? You mean you enjoy being doped up and stupid??
That IS a problem.
Tell that to the Christian baker.
A store might be privately owned, but it’s not a _private club_. It begs the question - maybe they just rent the space? In any case that is a place of public accomodation, i.e. Open to the public. Further, the clerk was an employee, not the property owner. It’s not his call.
He was fired, as he deserved and so amply demonstrated. The guy is obviously unwell, and obviously should never have been hired in the first place.
I am a “protected class” insofar that I am an American, were it me that clerk would be picking his teeth up like Chiclets off the floor. It’s way, way past time to stop the nonsense.
Democrats & Liberals have divided everybody up into groups and tribalized everything. “Equality under the law” has been turned on its head, all roads lead to “Hate Whitey”, even by nominally white guys.
That’s a pretty neat trick ya hafta admit!
Stores and businesses have not been governed by your private property notion for more than 50 years
Refusing service for political beliefs is fairly construed as a civil rights violation.
Well, your problem was that you focused on the wrong issue. The question of public accomodation is a complex one. You are probably wrong on that issue, but no one would know without a lawsuit. What they would know is that a store clerk has absolutely no authority to tell anyone anything. He cannot act on behalf of the entity that owns or operates the store and he has no common law right derived from his status as an employee other than that which is the customary duties of a store clerk.
Political beliefs is definitely a protected class.
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How refreshing that a voice of reason has a keyboard. Thank you.
He cannot act on behalf of the entity that owns or operates the store...
Of course they can. They do it all the time. Owners are not always present and employees on duty take the place of the opener interpreting policy, making exceptions, answering customer complaints, safely removing cash and checks, filling shifts, sending people home earl, and calling the police on shop lifters and other criminals.
It’s the liberal, chicken weenies who are suffering the most, from TDS.
The other (black) guy just stands there...wondering WTFlip is going on with the idiot chicken breast weenie.
Every answer given by the 7 attorneys was in the reference to the question of whether a person can be asked to leave a store while open carrying a weapon. Their answers were a definitive “yes” based on the circumstances presented.
We agree stores ARE private property, but there is another issue at play here. The Trump supporter told the clerk he wouldn’t call the police or corporate about the assault if the clerk would just sell him the vape he was seeking for his wife. The clerk walked over to the shelves and started looking for the product, even asking the Trumper where it was. At that point, the clerk had entered into a “contract” position with the guy and I believe, was now obligated to make the sale.
I don’t believe, after that action, he can refuse service to the guy. But I’ll let the lawyers address this one.
The gays could have had a generic off-the-shelf cake. They wanted the cake-maker's artistic talent to go against the artist's beliefs.
The ex has relative that's a working artist. He got tired of commissions for a particular street-scape, and decided to decline them.
The baker decided not to do gay-themed "works of art" for his own reasons.
The guy in the vape shop simply entered the premises wearing Trump accouterments, and the clerk went TDS on him because of "Trump". The clerk also ignored the customer-in-progress.
I don’t believe that is the case under Federal law, but it can be under state law. I don’t know if Georgia has state law that includes political ideology.
How would you deem the assault as presented?
The clerk wasn't interpreting policy. The clerk was making policy.
Sure. He "could" have ejected the customer, just on the whim he expressed. But, he'd have to accept the consequences. As would/will the owner.
It's been reported that the clerk has, indeed, been fired. So, does the clerk have standing to sue the employer for an unfair dismissal? After all, the clerk was simply enforcing private property rights, in the absence of the owner.
you said they could not act on behalf of. I gave you several common examples. Admit it or not. Don’t much care. Good night.
the clerk can sue all he wants probably not for your specific reason. You made an incorrect generality and i explained why it was wrong. i didn’t address anything about property rights. But ejecting customers happens all the time when managers are not present. have you ever been in a store or business that serves the public. Or have your parents taken you?
Now at last goodbye.
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