Posted on 10/08/2018 4:47:47 AM PDT by w1n1
The .308 is really good at a lot of things, but other rounds are better in specific roles. Where the .308 is a jack of all trades, other rounds designed for one purpose have done a better job in the roles they were designed for. But none can fill all roles like the .308 can.
In the combat/close quarters battle role, the .223 is king. There is no denying it. When the M16 replaced the M14 as our nation’s primary service weapon in the 1960s, it permanently made the .308 a less acceptable combat round. The .223 round is lighter, meaning you can carry more of it.
When a .223 round is fired through the wrong barrel length/twist combo, it “icepicks” targets, going straight through and leaving a minimal wound cavity. A .308 round is a significantly bigger round. Bullets are measured in grain weights. An average .223 round weighs around 55 grains, but a .308 is about 160 grains, almost three times as heavy. That results in harder hits down range that are less susceptible to barrel length and twist issues. The .308 is less affected by wind than its lighter cousin. This also makes it a good dual-purpose round for CQB, as well as sniping. The .308 round works well in an AR platform. For every major .223 tactical rifle made, there is a .308 caliber variant. Read the rest of 308 cartridge.
Agreed. Good post.
How many calibers use a 30-06 case as a starting point ??
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Please describe the .300 AAC BLK or 300 Blackout for those who do not recognize it.
How many?
I’m going to Say,
8.
I admit, 308 is my favorite all around round. I just love shooting a real 30 caliber rifle.
I personally don’t like black guns. With me it’s style…walnut with blued steel… I understand their purpose though.
5.56 has its purpose as does 7.62. 223, more ammo less weight. .308 more weight more power longer range better penetration through city scapes. I wouldn’t want to be shot by either. I do think 9mm is not for the military. 10mm minimum. (Btw I tend to carry an ultra lightweight 9)
Now I’m going back to loading more .30-40 Krag for my model 1899 Krag.
Gotta remember that 30-06 is based on an elongated 7or 8mm Mauser round. Same rim diameter.
But to answer 270 Winchester 280 Remington 25-06, .35 Whalen
ThenTo the shorter .308 and all its kin including .243, 7mm 08. .358 winchester
And a host of others my brain is too feeble to remember without more coffee.
Commercially only one 25-06, the 6.5-06 is another great round but I don’t believe factory ammo is available.
Wait wait wait.
I skimmed the article and yet did not see any gross errors in grammar and syntax.
Something is wrong here.
A 308 makes a nice sound on a metal gong target at 300 yards.
I agree with this article. Though my preferred all around round is the 6.5 Creedmoor.
“When the M16 replaced the M14 as our nation’s primary service weapon in the 1960s, it permanently made the .308 a less acceptable combat round. The .223 round is lighter, meaning you can carry more of it.”
WHO WRITES THIS BS?
When they took my M14 away from me and gave me an M16, the very next firefight I was in had my piece jam. I hated the M16. It was unreliable in combat.
The M-16 and M4 carbine in 5.56 were intended to combine the functions of a battle rifle at and controllable sub machine gun while being light weight enough to replace the M1 Carbine
They fulfill that combined roll extremely well.
The 30-06 is based on the 30-03 that replaced the 30-40. The case of the the 30-03 was shortened to make the 30-06. the 270 and the 280 were both made from the original 30-03 case, they have a longer case length. The 25-06 was based on the 06 and share the same shortened case. So in reality they were all based on the 30-03, even those with much shorter case lengths.
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I like the .308, though I’m partial to the .30-06 (hence, my screen name).
The 30-.03 was just a longer necked 30.06. The 30-06 fires safely through 30-03 chambers.
“When a .223 round is fired through the wrong barrel length/twist combo, it “icepicks” targets...”
Huh?
You should own at least one, just to pi55 off the gun-grabbers if nothing else.
You can get a very decent AR for under $500 these days, especially if you don't mind assembling a parts kit into a stripped lower receiver.
I got a Palmetto State Armory carbine kit with a completely assembled upper that included a free float M-Loc handguard, a lower parts kit with enhanced polished trigger group, and Magpul buttstock and pistol grip for under $400, and combined it with an Anderson stripped lower I picked up at a gun show for $39.
Because of the completely pre-assembled upper, the only specialized tool I needed to buy to build the rifle was a castle nut wrench to secure the buffer tube. Everything else dropped in with regular punches and a drift hammer. (Hardest part was the bolt catch roll pin, but I got it in without resorting to a specialized bolt catch roll pin punch.)
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