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Muslim spokesman at Illinois conference says Muslims are “being coerced (tr)
The Geller Report ^ | 8/24/18 | Pamela Geller

Posted on 08/24/2018 11:17:03 AM PDT by Impala64ssa

into accepting liberal values, into accepting feminism”

Consider carefully what Dr. Abdur-Rafay says here: “Moreover, we’re being coerced, we’re being coerced into accepting liberal values, into accepting feminism, and undermining Islamic injunctions on homosexuality and marriage itself. In the post-9/11 era, the battle for Muslim hearts and minds seeks to produce a good Muslim- a good Muslim who believes in a secular Islam and an American Islam.”

Yet the political and media elites want us to take for granted that all Muslims in the U.S. believe in a secular Islam, an American Islam, that accepts feminism and gay rights and everything else that conflicts with sharia. Yet here is a Muslim spokesman saying that they don’t, at a conference right in the heart of America. Authorities should think veru carefully about what Dr. Abdur-Rafay says here. But they won’t.

Consider carefully what Dr. Abdur-Rafay says here: “Moreover, we’re being coerced, we’re being coerced into accepting liberal values, into accepting feminism, and undermining Islamic injunctions on homosexuality and marriage itself. In the post-9/11 era, the battle for Muslim hearts and minds seeks to produce a good Muslim- a good Muslim who believes in a secular Islam and an American Islam.” Yet the political and media elites want us to take for granted that all Muslims in the U.S. believe in a secular Islam, an American Islam, that accepts feminism and gay rights and everything else that conflicts with sharia. Yet here is a Muslim spokesman saying that they don’t, at a conference right in the heart of America. Authorities should think veru carefully about what Dr. Abdur-Rafay says here. But they won’t.

At Hizb-ut-Tahrir America’s 2018 Khilafa Conference, Dr. Abdur-Rafay said that the West has “launched a new Crusade – a much deadlier attack, with profound consequences, than just physical wounds,” and that “the bloody Crusades to spread Christianity… was now re-energized to infuse secular liberalism upon Muslims.” He accused Western governments and the media of linking any act of violence by a Muslim to extremism coming from a violent political ideology of Islam, and said that this narrative is a means of forcing Muslims to condemn violence, to prove their patriotism, and to adopt Western values. Abdur-Rafay said that this assault seeks to produce a “good Muslim” who believes in a secular, “American” Islam. The conference took place on April 29 in Palos Hills, Illinois.

The following are excerpts:

Dr. Abdur-Rafay: The West realized that they could not defeatthe Muslim nation militarily, so they launched a new Crusade– a much deadlier attack, with profound consequences, than just physical wounds. The aim of this new Crusade was to uproot Islam from the souls of the Muslims, to make it irrelevant in life’s affairs, to reduce it to tedious rituals. This assault predates 9/11, it predates the war on terror. The battle for Muslim hearts and minds has been a project of the West since the 17th century. This assault on the Muslim mind, this assault on the Muslim mind, my brothers and sisters, is an existential threat to the Islamic nation. The bloody Crusades to spread Christianity, as they claim, and to resist the spread of Islam was now re-energized to infuse secular liberalism upon Muslims.

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The Muslim population was molded. They were molded like Play-Doh to have an inferiority complex, and view the West, and its secular ideas, as being superior to Islam and modern. Muslim scholars and intellectuals influenced by the West – they played a key role in forming the secular narrative on Islam….

So a narrative has been established by Western governments and the media that is imposed particularly on the Muslims living in the West and globally. This narrative seeks to link any act of violence by a Muslim as being violent extremism coming from a violent political ideology of Islam. Then the Muslims are forced to condemn. They’re forced to assimilate, to prove their patriotism, to adopt Western values. You gotta like it, and you gotta love it as well. Not just you’re OK with them, you gotta love these values. You need to reform Islam and redefine it so that it is palatable to secular liberalism. The forced conversion of Muslims in colonial America has now become the coerced conversion by secular narratives on Islam. Islamic terminologies like jihad, enjoining the good, forbidding the reprehensible,Sharia, etc. – they’re all being redefined to fit the secular order. Hijab, women’s rights, gender roles, laws on inheritance are all under attack. Moreover, we’re being coerced, we’re being coerced into accepting liberal values, into accepting feminism, and undermining Islamic injunctions on homosexuality and marriage itself. In the post-9/11 era, the battle for Muslim hearts and minds seeks to produce a good Muslim- a good Muslim who believes in a secular Islam and an American Islam.


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More evidence that islam, no pun intended, TRUMPS feminism and all things LGBTetc. And more proof that Islam is not a religion, it's a damn CULT. Very similar to Scientology. Even though they're completely different entities they share some important commonalities. They cannot tolerante ridicule or criticism. Scientology reacts with threats of litigation, islam reacts with violence. They cannot tolerate apostasy. Scientology reacts with harassment and intimidation, as ex Scieno Leah Remini learned the hard way. Islam reacts with violence, as untold millions learned the hard way. And they both need to disguise themselves as religions in order to conceal their true agendas. Scientology, in the guise of a religion is an elaborate scam devised by L Ron Hubbard, a 4th rate sci fi writer and low level con artist whose primary objective was to separate the rich and famous from as much of their $$$$ as possible. Islam in the guise of a religion is a tyrannical, dictatorial, absolutist, misogynistic, racist, homophobic theological/militaristic/politicl social order devised by mohammed, a hashish abusing child molester whose primary objective was to rule the world ny any means necessary.
1 posted on 08/24/2018 11:17:03 AM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

Welcome to the party, pal.

I feel coerced, or at least that there are those who would like to try to coerce me, as well.


2 posted on 08/24/2018 11:18:07 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: Impala64ssa

Islam is a Death Cult. It really IS that simple.


3 posted on 08/24/2018 11:21:55 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Christianity is being pushed to accept these same cr@p liberal things, too.


4 posted on 08/24/2018 11:29:34 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Impala64ssa

bkmk


5 posted on 08/24/2018 11:30:22 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Impala64ssa

And some muslims are trying to push sharia on all non-muslims around them.


6 posted on 08/24/2018 11:33:45 AM PDT by DBrow
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You would think the logical solution would be for Islam to see that they have more in common with Christians and unite with us against the secular progressives.

But aside from a few brands of Islam, the rest of them are more interested in supremacy rather than alliances with the rest of us to oppose the left because they think marginalizing us is a good step toward winning in the finally showdown with the Marxist left.

7 posted on 08/24/2018 11:38:45 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Impala64ssa

Islam is a mass-murder and hate cult.
Needs to be eliminated ASAP if we, everybody are to ever have any chance of peaceful lives (or just lives, period!)


8 posted on 08/24/2018 11:45:11 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, twe dhey're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: Impala64ssa

F! them All, childrapinggoathumpingterrorscum and the demonratcommies !!!


9 posted on 08/24/2018 12:17:34 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: Vigilanteman
logical solution would be for Islam

Incompatible and an Oxymoron

10 posted on 08/24/2018 12:26:30 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

The stay in your own shithole countries, and out of the West, you lowlife, dirtbag troglodyte-from-hell!


11 posted on 08/24/2018 12:27:10 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.)
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To: Impala64ssa

As a person with a functioning brain, I look at Muslims and their lapdog media over on the Left and formerly Great Britain across the pond and I listen to Katie Hopkins and uncontrollable thoughts waft through my mind.

Namely, unlike Britain, who is essentially unarmed due to no 2nd Amendment, and tens of millions of guys like myself over on The Right here in the US and I can’t help but think that the media and muslims ain’t seen nuthin yet! I’m almost afraid for them somewhere down the line.


12 posted on 08/24/2018 12:30:44 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: carriage_hill

Better yet, take our feminists with you! Teach ‘em some manners.


13 posted on 08/24/2018 12:31:21 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: Impala64ssa

I consider it a cult of personality. I once asked a catholic priest if he thought islam was a religion and he stated that it was. So the ignorance is widespread.


14 posted on 08/24/2018 12:38:26 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Impala64ssa

There is only Islam. < /Erdogan>


15 posted on 08/24/2018 12:40:28 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: AlaskaErik

Totalitarian political system that uses religion as a beard and as a means of social control.


16 posted on 08/24/2018 12:42:05 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Impala64ssa

We were coerced into it, you will be too.


17 posted on 08/24/2018 12:50:19 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media deliberately and intentionally chooses to lie, with full awareness and knowledge.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I don't accept feminism or the whole LGBT sexual deviant scam, either.

Does that mean I am not sufficiently integrated into American society?

18 posted on 08/24/2018 12:58:28 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Some things are so obviously depraved that only an ethicist could approve of them.)
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To: Impala64ssa

There is an Albanian coffee shop hang out near my local University, and of course you have lots of liberal latte drinking chicks going there to test new flavors of people and sexes in all their feminine suppleness for everything. And right after the Pulse massacre I hear this chick talk about it to these two caucasian muslims and instead of saying the usual bull of islam is peace, they straight up smiled and said: “we just do not like gays”.

And she kept talking to them almost apologrtically saying, “well, I have gay friends and they are good to get along with...”

Funny how it was no outrage whatsoever and she cowered AND stayed, I mean burka time.

And for those thinking it is toxic masculinity, the feminine is way too supple and accepting of this brand of “masculinity”, which it is not but perverted narcissism. Also NPR regularly shuts down intrrviews of feminine versions of islam expounded by sufi female practicers. They only keep and moderate the snakes around like Stephanopoulos with Obama


19 posted on 08/24/2018 1:04:01 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: AlaskaErik

Yes. It is perverted narcissism incarnate. The muslim incarnates the touted advantages of authority of men over women without the actual work that true masculinity entails which concerns the work of protecting, providing and responsibilizing education of a female companion naturally shy about thoze things.

Yet this arbitrary macho+ domination of woman without proof of work and stake in the woman is what these stupid feminists are grooming


20 posted on 08/24/2018 1:10:35 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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