Man shoots friend over 30$ debt

personal | 08/15/2018 | ikeon

[Ikeon]

HEADLINES ..A local man shot and killed his neighbor over a 30$ debt- Reads the local head line.

The local fish wrap reported Mr. A went to Mr. B's house to confront him over 30$ Mr.B owned Mr.A... Mr.B answers the door and Mr A confronted him about money owed, an arguement ensued and Mr. A shot Mr. B in the chest and fled. Several witnesses identified Mr A as the shooter, most notable was his wife and kids who were standing in the house when Mr B was shot and saw the whole thing! The police were called and a manhunt ensued and Mr A was captured in the woods a few hours later..

Fast forward Mr. A is now on trial for Murder 1..

Mr A knows he killed Mr B, but claims he was on PCP and he never meant to kill Mr B, he brought to gun to Mr B's house hoping to scare him.

NOW FOR THE REST OF THE STORY

As old to me by a first hand account of the trial..

A&B were long time friends. A and B were the kind of friends who shared drugs together, hung out, and lived next door to each other. On the day B died, A went to his friends house (B) with a loaded .25 acp pistol wanting to scare B into giving him the 30$ B owned him. A always carryed a weapon because he was a drug dealer and had been jumped and robbed in his own neighborhood. B answered the door and an arguement ensued, A pulls his gun and points it at B, B says " you got me" and shruggs his shoulders and smiles at A.. then shuts the door. thats when A shot 4x thru the door, killing B in front of his wife and kids. A runs off into the woods not knowing if B was shot and killed but knew he'd screwed up.

the paper made a big deal out of the "MANHUNT FOR THE KILLER" the truth is A's father took the cops right to him after finding him first and making sure he DIDN'T KNOW HE KILLED B. the mans father didn't want A killing himself. A gave himself up when his father lead the police to him.

the state charged A with 1st degree murder

During the trial it was established A shot B - no issue, A admitted shooting thru the door not intending to hit anyone, he said during target practice his .25 wouldn't penetrate a 2x6. so he didn't think it would go thru the door.

During the trial MR A's attorney tried to bring up the PCP use as clouding A's mind that day. My friend said the jury never considered it a possible excuse for murder

There are a few more details left out of the newspaper that were never brought up in court. Mr A was a runt 5'6" 135# Mr B 9 the deceased was 6'2" over 200# - the defense lawyer asked the jury after the trial if they knew the "size " of Mr. B.

The state wasted the jurys time afraid the jury was buying the PCP defense that they introduced as evidence video showing MR A sitting in a police car for 40 minutes doing nothing out of the ordinary, then they showed a 2 hour interagation room with A sitting by himself. 2 HOURS OF a GUY SITTING BY HIMSELF.to prove he wasn't on PCP.. something the jury didn't really consider anyway.

The sad part about this whole case is the jury was divided on racial lines. it was blacks understanding sometimes things get heated and A did kill B after B challenged A to shoot him and shut the door on him, it was a dangerous reckless act by A but not pre-meditated, the whites on the jury felt bringing a gun to someones house meant he intended bodily harm to B. and it was therefor pre-meditated murder 1.

another point that shouldn't have mattered - A & B were both black

There are a lot of discussions on this page about people killing each other over an arguement. I thought I would throw this out and let you all comment before I finish with the verdict.

[Ikeon]

You are on the jury, What would you do?

[oldasrocks]

Hang the guy. If he was on dope it’s his fault.

[TheZMan]

Given what you have posted, I’d have A work off a debt to the wife and kids, followed by life in prison. This doesn’t feel like death penalty.

[Larry Lucido]

Send you to remedial English.

[Reno89519]

As a query, are you from the US? In the US we list money with the $ first. Maybe you are a foreign troll?

[Tea Party Terrorist]

You’re racist if you want A to get the DP, because A is black.

You’re racist if you don’t want A to get the DP because that proves you don’t care about black lives, in this case B.

Either way, whitey, you’re racist.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Meth. It’s always meth.

[Attention Surplus Disorder]

Perhaps start with replacing the beeber battery.

[Red Badger]

Guilty, of manslaughter, as charged.

He shot thru the door, not intending to kill, but he did...........

[bk1000]

Murder? Perhaps not as much as some version of manslaughter. There was stupidity involved, to be sure, but it does not sound like the intent was to kill B.

[Windflier]

You are on the jury, What would you do?

I'd fine the reporter for the crime of illiteracy.

The dollar sign goes before the number.

[Haiku Guy]

It is murder.

A reasonable person would think that firing into the door, when you know somebody is standing behind it, can result in the death of the person behind the door.

Whether or not the shooter is in a self-induced altered mental state is irrelevant. He is responsible for his mental state and for what he does while he is in that state.

He knew his friend was behind the door, and he shot into the door four times. No question. Murder.

[cuban leaf]

Life in prison. Not as punishment but to protect everyone else from him.

I see this as similar to what we do when an animal kills someone. We put it down. In this case, life in prison would be the equivalent.

This guy should never walk among us. Ever.

[DannyTN]

Lessons learned:

• Don't buy your drugs from Mr. A.
• Don't be friends with Mr. A.
• Don't owe Mr. A.
• Don't shrug at Mr. A.
• Get a bullet proof door.
• Don't sell drugs
• Don't sell drugs to your friends including Mr B.
• Get paid up front for your drugs.
• Don't make collection calls on friends with a gun.
• Don't pull a gun on a friend.
• Hire a collector.
• Don't fire a warning shot through a door where someone is.
• Don't fire a warning shot over $30.

[DannyTN]

• Get a peep hole so you can see if it's that friend you owe $30 to before you open the door.
• Hire Windflier to protect you from misplaced "$".

[SamAdams76]

Never talk to the police. Nothing good ever comes from it. Nobody has ever been exonerated by talking to the police. But many innocent people have been convicted by unwittingly getting tripped up during a police interview.

Always go to a lawyer when you are asked by the police to come in for questioning and say NOTHING. The police will often act like it's no big deal, you know, we just want to ask you a "couple questions" to clear a few things up. More often or not, you end up in that interrogation room for hours and you will leave that room in handcuffs.

So when the police say they want to ask you a couple of questions, you are already a SUSPECT or a PERSON OF INTEREST in the investigation.

Haven't you ever watched Columbo? The TV show with the kindly looking disheveled man in the raincoat? He looks like a man you can trust, right? He looks rather harmless does he not?

But the man is a shark! He is going to disarm you with his casual, friendly demeanor and lay his traps. Just when you think the interview is over, and you put your hand on the doorknob to leave the room, Columbo will raise his finger and say "Just one more thing..."

It is then that you know you are screwed. For when Columbo has that "one more thing" kind of question, you are now one commercial break from going to jail!

Jail!

So clam up and lawyer up.

Any policeman worth his salt will tell you that. But some people, they just have to run their mouths...

[Ikeon]

It was murder. but the rest of you and your comments about the writing and the dollar sign goes first. sheese. Im not a reporter, writer or author. Never claimed to be. Just throwing this out here for discussion before I say anytjing else. and I dont want to ever meet someone as neurotic as you all nit pickers. in case you are still reading it was murder.

[Wissa]

But many innocent people have been convicted by unwittingly getting tripped up during a police interview.

Haven't you ever watched Columbo? The TV show with the kindly looking disheveled man in the raincoat? He looks like a man you can trust, right? He looks rather harmless does he not? But the man is a shark! He is going to disarm you with his casual, friendly demeanor and lay his traps.

Are you saying Columbo railroaded innocent people? I don't think so.

I think you have him confused with Hamilton Burger. I don't think that guy EVER prosecuted anybody that wasn't innocent.

[9422WMR]

A,B,A,B, oh what BS!!
Who wrote this crap?

[Bartholomew Roberts]

$30