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Oregon Standoff FBI Agent Trial: The Not Guilty Verdict, Chief Juror Speaks Out, Ammon Bundy's View
Nextrush Free ^ | 8/11/2018 | Nextrush/Self

Posted on 08/12/2018 6:40:01 AM PDT by Nextrush

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To: Nextrush
He [Mark McConnell, the FBI snitch] was already committed to stopping even though shots were being fired at the stop

McConnell knew about the planned ambush-execution of anyone who didn't surrender to the government murderers while the trigger-happy warriors were shooting at anything in sight, because he was taking government silver to help set up the ambush-murder.

Finicum was under fire at the first stop. He was running down the road at 75 mph for his freakin life because the OSP shot at his vehicle at the first stop

The camouflaged faceless murderers shot at Finicum's stopped vehicle at the first stop.

This fact is not in dispute.

61 posted on 08/13/2018 9:26:01 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: Moonman62
His passengers stayed in the truck and they are alive today.

That's not because they weren't trying to kill them. Finicum drew fire away from the passengers by exiting the vehicle.

62 posted on 08/13/2018 9:29:33 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Moonman62

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Stop pushing this bullshit line.

Finicum had every right to be where he was and he didn’t reach for any weapon.

This whole thing is criminal governance from top to bottom.

The US government does not have ligitimate surface rights to any arable land within the Guadalupe Hidalgo treaty!

They have tried to steal private rights since the treaty was inked.
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63 posted on 08/13/2018 9:31:52 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: RideForever
...details, such as 1) who stated they saw a gun in Finicum’s coat before, and during the incident?

Isn't it odd that the murderers were programmed to "know" that Finicum had a gun and where it was - but we still are unclear about who saw it before and during the incident, if they did at all?

Perhaps the fog of the kill-adrenaline made the hidden killers hallucinate the gun that they were told was in a certain place on Finicum.

64 posted on 08/13/2018 9:31:52 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: MileHi
That's not because they weren't trying to kill them. Finicum drew fire away from the passengers by exiting the vehicle.

Exactly.

Ryan Bundy was shot when they were trying to kill all the people in the truck.

Finicum heroically gave his life to protect the women from being murdered by the hidden ambush-killers.

65 posted on 08/13/2018 9:35:59 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: editor-surveyor

Finicum had every right to be where he was and he didn’t reach for any weapon.

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Video, testimony, and the recovery of his weapons indicates that you’re wrong.


67 posted on 08/13/2018 9:37:24 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Moonman62; suijuris

And Finicum didn’t draw fire when he left the truck.

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Actually, I am wrong on this:

https://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2018/04/finicum_shooting_grand_jury_tr.html

But this fire was right after it appeared that Finicum knocked over an LEO with his truck, and right after he told the officers to shoot him.


68 posted on 08/13/2018 9:42:07 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Finicum had every right to be where he was and he didn’t reach for any weapon.

He was reacting to being shot, not reaching for a weapon, as we clearly saw in the original video released just after the incident.

Who are you going to believe - anonymous government killers and their defenders, or your lying eyes?

69 posted on 08/13/2018 9:43:46 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: editor-surveyor
The truth and reality is that the hidden ambush-murderers were so hyped-up on kill-adrenaline that one of them dove into the path of a speeding truck.

The killers then pretended that Finicum tried to run over one of them - despite the video clearly showing the anonymous shooter jumping in front of the truck.

70 posted on 08/13/2018 9:48:44 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: Moonman62
If you read about what went on that night, then you would know about the first traffic stop where the LE's shot fired a shot at Ryan Payne with his unarmed hands out the window of Finicum's truck without warning. Yes, Finicum decided to take off after that. Lucky for the LE/FBI that they already had a kill zone roadblock in place further up the road....almost as if they intended to force Finicum to drive into the roadblock ambush. For certain the LE's/FBI were going to make sure somebody got nailed that night. After all, we can't have freedom-loving Constitutionalist running around mouthing off and making the Fed Gov look bad.
71 posted on 08/13/2018 2:40:38 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: suijuris

If you read about what went on that night, then you would know about the first traffic stop where the LE’s shot fired a shot at Ryan Payne with his unarmed hands out the window of Finicum’s truck without warning.

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I saw that, but it was a claim by one of the ladies in Finicum’s truck, and not under oath. If a bullet did the damage she claimed, that would have shown up as forensic evidence. It didn’t. Other than that the only thing I can find is that they shot a pepper round that hit the top of Finicum’s truck.

In spite of the pepper round, Ryan Payne still surrendered and was brought into custody without injury.

Had Finicum done the same, he’d still be alive, and he wouldn’t have risked the lives of his passengers or the LEO’s involved.


72 posted on 08/13/2018 2:50:38 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Here’s the drone video synchronized with the cellphone audio from inside Finicum’s truck. Finicum was clearly shot after he reached for his weapon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt8WuYxSRnY


74 posted on 08/13/2018 4:00:59 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Moonman62

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Total bullshit!

And more to the point, Finicum was there ligitimately, while the Feds were there criminally, two or more having conspired to travel upon the highway for the purpose of denying a land owner his rights.


75 posted on 08/13/2018 9:00:48 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Nextrush

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There’s still time for Sidewalk Justice!

And then they cannot avoid the “Great White Throne.”

“vengeance is mine, I will repay” said Yehova.
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76 posted on 08/13/2018 9:18:39 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
This is getting to be like Twitter, where the Lefties get comments they don't like suppressed and deleted...

Well, at least you ain't suspended or in timeout, like Twitter.   smiling face

77 posted on 08/13/2018 10:44:19 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: suijuris
then you would know about the first traffic stop where the LE's shot fired a shot at Ryan Payne with his unarmed hands out the window of Finicum's truck without warning.

What I've read is that one of the camouflaged anonymous backshooters was trying to be "The Hero" and fire a noxious smoke round into the cab of the truck to win the day.

All it did was make it look like the camouflaged anonymous backshooting cowards were actually shooting at Finicum and his people.

No matter how much the apologists for the fibbies and the OSP throw smoke, that's what happened, and Finicum was correct to race away toward honest law enforcement.

How was he and his people to know that murderous cowardly backshooters were lying in wait behind an illegal kill-blockade?

78 posted on 08/13/2018 10:50:54 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: suijuris; editor-surveyor
Let's take a vote.

Do either of you stick up for anonymous murdering cowardly backshooters like the fibbies and the OSP in this incident, or do you speak out against them, as both of you did?

I myself vote against anonymous murdering cowardly backshooters.

Please post your votes below.    smiling face

79 posted on 08/13/2018 10:56:05 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: kiryandil

Its been like this for quite some time.

The shills seem to have some kind of special power.


80 posted on 08/14/2018 9:26:54 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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