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Oregon Standoff FBI Agent Trial: The Not Guilty Verdict, Chief Juror Speaks Out, Ammon Bundy's View
Nextrush Free ^ | 8/11/2018 | Nextrush/Self

Posted on 08/12/2018 6:40:01 AM PDT by Nextrush

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To: DesertRhino

Because they got busy murdering Lavoy. Had Lavoy stayed in the drivers seat the rounds would have continued to impact the truck and killed them too.

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No they wouldn’t. Finicum was shot because he repeatedly yelled that the cops would have to shoot him and then he reached for his weapon.

Of course, none of this would have happened had Finicum surrendered peaceful when he was initially stopped miles before the roadblock.


21 posted on 08/12/2018 7:55:35 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: DesertRhino

Finicum wasn’t murdered.

You people are making stuff up to defend a damn fool who got himself shot for no reason.

Finicum was a complete minus the entire way. A blowhard who said he wanted war with the police, claimed he wouldn’t be taken alive, set up his own battle and never got a shot off.

His ONLY accomplishment was giving the media an excuse to tag the entire group as violent extremists.


22 posted on 08/12/2018 7:59:53 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Hmmm)
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To: Moonman62

His passengers stayed in the truck and they are alive today.
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Alive, yes, and one of them was wounded by the mystifying2 shots. How many inches to the right or left would have been fatal?


23 posted on 08/12/2018 8:04:35 AM PDT by RideForever
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To: Jim 0216

Jury process and outcome regarding cases in which the totality of state power is on trial seem to fall into the outlier jury decisions. One might consider the long term personal consequences of jurors finding wrongdoing of the state. They have a history of getting even.


24 posted on 08/12/2018 8:05:53 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: Jim 0216

Cynic.../s


25 posted on 08/12/2018 8:06:49 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZGw2M)
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To: RideForever

Had Finicum surrendered when he was first stopped, nobody would have been injured.


26 posted on 08/12/2018 8:07:07 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Nextrush

I’ll bet that if the local or State police had been tasked with arresting Finicum it would have been done more intelligently. But the Feds have to overdo everything and deploy all their toys.


27 posted on 08/12/2018 8:07:25 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: Moonman62

>Had Finicum surrendered when he was first stopped, nobody would have been injured.”

With what we know about the hostility that abridged professional conduct of the Fed agents, Finicum made the right call to seek arrest by the sheriff. So now the Feds have 2 unaccounted shots fired, a possible bullet fragment buried in a victims shoulder that was not available for the trial, and multiple civil suits that might have access to that fragment.

And where are the perjury charges against the agents that stated no cameras or snipers were present in earlier trials?


28 posted on 08/12/2018 8:14:31 AM PDT by RideForever
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To: RideForever

Finicum made the right call to seek arrest by the sheriff.

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No he didn’t. He had no right to resist arrest at the first stop. And the people who did surrender at the first stop are alive and uninjured.


29 posted on 08/12/2018 8:30:25 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Finicum should have accepted his instant guilty verdict, his no right to assemble, his no right to self defense, and Finicum should have accepted his sentence of death by a firing squad of two.

He should have accepted it all like a real man.


32 posted on 08/12/2018 9:22:12 AM PDT by TheNext
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Big surprise. The beast protects its own. The FBI is a lawless entity, like most entities in DC.


33 posted on 08/12/2018 9:38:33 AM PDT by veracious (UN=OIC=Islam ; Dems may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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To: RideForever
With what we know about the hostility that abridged professional conduct of the Fed agents, Finicum made the right call to seek arrest by the sheriff. So now the Feds have 2 unaccounted shots fired, a possible bullet fragment buried in a victims shoulder that was not available for the trial, and multiple civil suits that might have access to that fragment.

Yep.

34 posted on 08/12/2018 10:46:12 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: RideForever
Alive, yes, and one of them was wounded by the mystifying2 shots. How many inches to the right or left would have been fatal?

LaVoy Finicum saved the others from the fibbie murderers.

35 posted on 08/12/2018 10:47:09 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: DesertRhino
Because they got busy murdering Lavoy. Had Lavoy stayed in the drivers seat the rounds would have continued to impact the truck and killed them too.

Exactly. Finicum offered himself up to sate the bloodlust of the murdering little Fed "operator"-wannabes.

The women were lucky they didn't get backshot.

36 posted on 08/12/2018 10:49:13 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: DesertRhino
And that Sheriff refers to it as an ambush. The bottom line is that F-troop set up an ambush and the “hostage rescue team” likes to pretend they are Delta or Seals. There was no legal or moral reason to murder him.

For the thrill of the kill of defenseless people.

37 posted on 08/12/2018 10:50:32 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: Nextrush

The prosecutor didn’t want a conviction. It’s as simple as that.


38 posted on 08/12/2018 11:13:45 AM PDT by WASCWatch
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The prosecutor didn’t want a conviction. It’s as simple as that.

It's GOOD to be a Fed backshooter.

39 posted on 08/12/2018 11:28:29 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: Nextrush
He told "OregonLive" that without the lack of direct testimony from a witness or definitive physical evidence tying Astarita to the two shots, he could not convict Astarita

I think this sentence is messed up.

40 posted on 08/12/2018 11:32:40 AM PDT by bkopto
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