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Why Pit Bull Type Dogs Fail as Police Dogs
http://banallpitbulls.blogspot.com ^ | June 18, 2017 | Thomas McCartney

Posted on 08/03/2018 3:36:24 PM PDT by Norski

Here is what is happening with pit bulls used by law enforcement.

The dogs are cherry picked from shelters by Animal Farm Foundation (extreme pit bull advocacy with unlimited funds). The dogs receive a few weeks of training by a professional paid by AFF, The dogs are then given, free of charge, to cash-strapped police departments.

Cities that can afford better, obtain bred-for-task dogs, frequently bred and trained in Europe. The traditional police dog has already been extensively trained before it even gets on the plane and gets another 14 weeks training with the new handler in the United States.

AFF pit bull is a stray with no known history, back-yard bred, with 4 weeks training in Texas prior to placement. AFF uses the placement of these dogs for publicity. If you read the press releases on these placements you find that AFF dog will have very limited use BUT will serve as a "breed ambassador."

If you look at demographics for cities accepting these dogs, the communities are poor, very low household incomes. They are also small, some have under a thousand residents.

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Police pit bulls:

For some clarity here;

1)The dog's main function is scent detection, specifically narcotics.

2)It will not do bite apprehension work.

3)No pit bull has ever been used as a bite apprehension K9 by a US LEA.

4)As for "tracking missing persons", The instances in which a tracking dog would be used for a missing person search are quite limited.

5)The nature of a track is that it degrades quickly, is easily contaminated and most tracking dogs can not work on hard surfaces.

6) TRAILING DOGS and SCENT DISCRIMINATING TRAILING DOGS, are specially trained to work hard surfaces, to ignore cross tracks and contaminating odors and to work aged, degraded and dispersed scents. The most familiar breed to do this is the Bloodhound.

7) The bloodhound's physical characteristics make it eminently suitable for this type of scent work

8) The pit bull's physical characteristics are a deterrent to trailing and a detriment to tracking.

9) A pit bull's effectiveness at tracking will be limited to fresh, uncontaminated tracks on "soft" surfaces. What that means is the pit bull can not track a child that wanders from a house in suburbia, or an alzheimer patient that wanders from a home in an urban environment.

10)Other limitations curbing viable effectiveness include; rain, windy conditions, hail, sleet, snow.

11) Because tracking dogs are trained to find and follow the freshest or strongest scent, unless the dog is ALSO trained to scent discriminate, it will be unable to track where people, vehicles or animals have been in the area and left fresher scent on top of the target track by walking across it, or have left pools of scent across or near the target track via close proximity to it.

12) The most effective and most common method used in missing persons searches is NOT tracking, but AIR SCENT. NASAR requires a SAR K9 to pass 2 TIMED search tests. 1 is 80 acres and the next is 160 acres. This is done off lead with the dog ranging out of sight and being trained to do a refind (take handler to found person).

13)While tracking and trailing can be done off lead they are almost always done on lead. It is physically impossible to thoroughly search 10 acres by tracking, even if it is done off lead. It is impossible to thoroughly search 3 acres by on lead tracking.

14) So, unless the chain of command in this department is insane, the pit bull will ALWAYS be on lead when working narc AND especially when "tracking missing persons" to limit liability.

Thus it is safe to say this pit bull will be "tracking missing persons" just like the average husband will be sewing curtains for the guest room after he mops and waxes the kitchen floor.

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It is impossible to understand why they would accept the risk of using a pit bull, the type of dog known to have killed roughly 30 humans a year over the last five years, when there are numerous breeds that excel at K9 work without the enormous risks associated with pit bulls.

Their decision to accept Kiah as a K9 is a disgraceful public relations gimmick by the Animal Farm Foundation.

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Dayna Hamilton22 June 2017 at 19:53

At least when the K-9 pit goes pit there will be someone close by and accurate with a firearm

1 posted on 08/03/2018 3:36:25 PM PDT by Norski
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To: Norski

The above comment is a continuation of the editorial article, to include one comment.

I am refraining from comment for a few minutes. Norski


2 posted on 08/03/2018 3:37:28 PM PDT by Norski
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To: Norski

It is not politically correct to denigrate (oops!) pit bulls.


3 posted on 08/03/2018 3:43:00 PM PDT by A strike (Academia is almost as racist as Madison Avenue.)
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To: Norski

Who is a good dog? You’re a good dog!

4 posted on 08/03/2018 3:44:05 PM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: Norski

“2)It will not do bite apprehension work”

However, “bite-off apprehension” it excels at.


5 posted on 08/03/2018 3:45:56 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: Norski

That dog’s main purpose is killing things.


6 posted on 08/03/2018 3:49:27 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Norski
At least when the K-9 pit goes pit there will be someone close by and accurate with a firearm

Now that's funny !!!

7 posted on 08/03/2018 3:53:17 PM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: Norski

I received this YouTube video from a friend whose a retired LEO.

Amazing Belgian Melanois

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUY5Ide98g0&t=7s


8 posted on 08/03/2018 3:56:42 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: GingisK

Pitbull haters unite.

Oh stick it. Get a life and condemn leftists not pups.


9 posted on 08/03/2018 4:03:54 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Norski

I had a friend in Tulsa who had been a police-dog trainer in Germany. She managed the church nursery like you wouldn’t believe.


10 posted on 08/03/2018 4:04:05 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Fill in my standard rant.)
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To: Norski

Any kabuki theatre aside as far as their actual usefulness, it might be interesting to know how presumably well trained and socialized pitbulls will do. When I say well trained, I don’t mean anything to do with tracking, I mean trained to obey their handler. I wonder if they wear muzzles when they are on the job among the public.

Freegards


11 posted on 08/03/2018 4:06:19 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Norski

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know already. You hate dogs. Pit Bulls the most.

You can say it a thousand more times but it won’t make it any less of a mental illness and major obsession.

Get over yourself fer cryin’ out! Enough with these dog bashing threads. Enough! Get a freakin’ life. Get a hobby or a boyfriend. Something. Fool around on your husband. Have an affair. Anything but bring hate and discontent to FR.


12 posted on 08/03/2018 4:08:15 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: Norski
Why Pit Bull Type Dogs Fail as Police Dogs...well, all I know is that a couple of days ago Philadelphia police had to shoot and kill two Pit Bulls and drive three others off of an attack on a two year old boy who was staying with his aunt when the dogs - her pets - attacked him and the aunt - the boy died in a hospital shortly after the rescue - there might be a clue there.....
13 posted on 08/03/2018 4:09:24 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: A strike

True, which is one reason why it should be done.


14 posted on 08/03/2018 4:11:04 PM PDT by Norski
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To: PLMerite

It appears that one has a black and gory sense of humor. . .


15 posted on 08/03/2018 4:12:29 PM PDT by Norski
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To: Boomer

I agree Boomer this poster and his clan show up at odd times pushing the same meme and with all the cheerleaders lined up like good little goobers to fan the flames

Not sure the root of his obsession is but I made the mistake of following his links to his web site. Trash to say the least and it appears he is little more than a hit whore looking for hits there so he can attempt to monetize it

Don’t feed him or his tribe, they are all head cases and will fade away again as they always do


16 posted on 08/03/2018 4:15:08 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: GingisK

True, especially other dogs - in a ring - for large sums of money. This is the original purpose for which the breed was created.

I believe the peripheral damage of other animals and humans is regarded by many of these breeders and owners as either a bonus or unimportant. But then, I believe that we all have wicked hearts, as the Bible puts it.


17 posted on 08/03/2018 4:16:21 PM PDT by Norski
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To: super7man

Yes, ruefully and disgustingly so. And I am not immune - which is why I included it . . .


18 posted on 08/03/2018 4:17:37 PM PDT by Norski
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I’m told that the difference between a German Shepherd and a Belgian Malinois is that where a GSD will run and catch you a Malinois will literally fly through the air and take you down.

A Malinois is smaller but much higher energy than a GSD, and not suitable as a pet.


19 posted on 08/03/2018 4:17:58 PM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's socialist colony)
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To: Norski

Crawl back under your rock, Chet99 2.0.


20 posted on 08/03/2018 4:18:59 PM PDT by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, rescue a pit bull.)
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