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The Camping Trip That Changed American History
the sun also rises radio show ^ | 9 April 2018

Posted on 04/11/2018 12:25:39 PM PDT by Thistooshallpass9

This episode examines how a serious injury sustained by a factory worker in 1867 not only changed the course of that man's life, but also set in motion a chain of events that changed the course of American history —in a way that countless people for generations have benefited from. USA!


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: 1867; camping; johnmuir; teddyroosevelt; worstexcerptever
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1 posted on 04/11/2018 12:25:39 PM PDT by Thistooshallpass9
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To: Thistooshallpass9

How about a precis for those of us unable to spend half an hour listening to a radio clip?


2 posted on 04/11/2018 1:11:40 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Thistooshallpass9

Let me guess: John Muir?


3 posted on 04/11/2018 1:16:08 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

Aye, the same!


4 posted on 04/11/2018 1:27:59 PM PDT by Thistooshallpass9
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To: Don W; Thistooshallpass9

I second the motion.


5 posted on 04/11/2018 1:29:42 PM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: Thistooshallpass9

Good grief. Just tell us what this is about. Most of us don’t have the time or the inclination to listen to this without even knowing what it’s about.


6 posted on 04/11/2018 1:33:29 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Don W

Yes certainly:

Theodore Roosevelt’s presidency began in 1901, and he read some of John Muir’s writings about America’s forests being rapidly depleted. Roosevelt was moved by Muir’s message so he wrote Muir a personal letter, asking him to take him through Yosemite: “I do not want anyone with me but you, and I want to drop politics absolutely for four days and just be out in the open with you,” TR wrote.

Muir was happy to oblige, and on May 15 1903 they began a 3-day camping trip in Yosemite. During campfire discussions, Muir had Roosevelt’s undivided attention. He emphasized the need for Yosemite wilderness and other wilderness areas to be set aside and persevered for the American public to enjoy.

Roosevelt was deeply stirred by Muir’s arguments, and a short time later, Roosevelt signed the Yosemtie Recession Bill which places all these lands under Federal protection.

A little later in his presidency, Roosevelt signed five more national parks into existence, and 150 national forests and 55 national bird sanctuaries. Altogether, Roosevelt set aside about 230 million acres of public land for all Americans (and foreign visitors).

Muir died in 1914. But his legacy lives on. Anyone who’s visited Yosemite, Sequoia National Park, Kings Canyon or the Grand Canyon has Muir to thank. He had a direct role in the establishment of all those.

And indirectly, because of his profound influence on Theodore Roosevelt, we can thank Muir for almost all of America’s millions of acres of national parks and forests and other protected lands.


7 posted on 04/11/2018 1:35:08 PM PDT by Thistooshallpass9
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To: SJSAMPLE

You have to be right, I Googled the image and it did respond as “john muir.”


8 posted on 04/11/2018 1:35:48 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Thistooshallpass9

Tnks


9 posted on 04/11/2018 1:37:00 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Thistooshallpass9

OK ... so we can thank John Muir and the progressive Teddy Roosevelt for giving Bill Clinton the tools to lock up huge anthracite coal deposits in “protected lands” where they won’t compete with his Indonesian buddies’ mining interests ...


10 posted on 04/11/2018 1:40:17 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

Yes, I reckon that’s about right. But after traveling through parts of China where industry is king and nature is viewed as an alien force to be conquered and exploited, I think some regulation and preservation is warranted. All things in moderation, you know?


11 posted on 04/11/2018 1:48:18 PM PDT by Thistooshallpass9
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All things in moderation

Communists, whether in China or in these United States, know nothing of moderation. Their goal is absolute State control of EVERYTHING.

12 posted on 04/11/2018 1:55:55 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

So should we pave over the Grand Canyon and turn it into an industrial park, or strip malls?


13 posted on 04/11/2018 2:02:46 PM PDT by Thistooshallpass9
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To: Thistooshallpass9

Should we lock up the largest anthracite coal deposit in North America, as a payoff to the president’s foreign cronies?


14 posted on 04/11/2018 2:04:23 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

No we should not.


15 posted on 04/11/2018 2:09:23 PM PDT by Thistooshallpass9
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To: Thistooshallpass9
Nor should we pave the Grand Canyon.

Trouble is, Government has displayed three serious problems.

1) Poor stewardship of lands it currently controls as parks and monuments.

2) Graft, abuse, and corruption in the acquisition of lands. The acquisition of lands to form the Smoky Mountain and Shenandoah National Parks amounted to ethnic cleansing and borderline theft. For example.

3) An ideological bias against people actually living in rural areas. "Agenda 21" has been much discussed on this forum.

16 posted on 04/11/2018 2:29:36 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

Yes I agree with you about these deep rooted problems, and appreciate the balance you are helping bring me to on this issue.


17 posted on 04/11/2018 2:52:35 PM PDT by Thistooshallpass9
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To: Thistooshallpass9

More on the east side of the Mississippi less on the west.


18 posted on 04/11/2018 2:54:46 PM PDT by Hieronymus (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Thistooshallpass9; NorthMountain

“So should we pave over the Grand Canyon and turn it into an industrial park, or strip malls?”

I’m thinking a really big dam and we make it into a massive lake.

(-:


19 posted on 04/11/2018 2:58:53 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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OK ... I wonder ... If you dammed the Colorado where it exits the Grand Canyon, how long would it take to fill up?

;’}


20 posted on 04/11/2018 3:05:04 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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