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Wealthy Homeowners in Blue States Will Be Hit Hardest by the GOP Tax Bill Awaiting Trump’s Signature
IWB ^ | Robert Carbery

Posted on 12/21/2017 6:55:43 AM PST by davikkm

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To: outpostinmass2
Only the wealthy’s federal taxes are going up in those states. And in those blue states that demographic is voting Democrat already.

The middle class are going to take quite a hit in those states as well. Anyone who itemized is probably going to get hurt.

61 posted on 12/21/2017 9:26:38 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: jmaroneps37

I am loving all of this winning :-)


62 posted on 12/21/2017 9:28:32 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: DoodleDawg
You're right. And it's gotten worse. From this year....

New York gives billions more than it gets in federal spending

Works out to 84 cents on the dollar.

63 posted on 12/21/2017 9:28:42 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Who will the Trump tax plan benefit?

Most taxpayers and workers (48%)
The wealthy and big business (47%)
I’m not sure (5%)

Read more: http://www.headlineoftheday.com/2017/12/21/who-will-the-trump-tax-plan-benefit/#ixzz51uzxrEJk


64 posted on 12/21/2017 9:38:53 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Build Kate's wall! Keep illegals and illegal murderers/criminals out of America! MAGA! SLAP ACT!,)
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To: All

Wait, they way I understood it they were actually going to be harmed by their STATE’S taxes, right?


65 posted on 12/21/2017 9:44:35 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: kabar

We are in a similar situation-mid 70s. I have two-thirds in stocks mainly because I have a federal pension and can take greater risks. It has been a very good year!

Then, you really know how beneficial for retirees with IRA’s under even President Trump elect and then President Trump!

Our excellent CPA has told us that when this new tax ruling goes into effect, we should get a reverse mortgage line of credit to pay off our Mortgage and home improvement line of credit. Then, take the $25k deduction for both of us and pocket or reinvest the $1500/net each month wo the above payments. Besides we will not be paying him $450 per year to do our taxes and eliminate all paperwork on our part.


66 posted on 12/21/2017 9:45:53 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Build Kate's wall! Keep illegals and illegal murderers/criminals out of America! MAGA! SLAP ACT!,)
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To: davikkm

If I make 150k in Texas I pay more federal income tax than someone making 150k in New York because those in high tax states can deduct their local and state taxes off their gross income.

Thus in effect I here in Texas would be subsidizing New York. The obscene taxes in New York are a matter to be resolved between their citizens and their government and not my income earned here in Texas!


67 posted on 12/21/2017 9:54:44 AM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: davikkm

There is a jerk from New York, redundancy noted, that is the winter time starter at a golf course we frequent that will be hard hit. Said last year he pair $30,000 in property taxes.


68 posted on 12/21/2017 10:28:00 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Who do you think they vote for?

As a high income earner in a blue state, I can assure you despite your stereotyping, I don't vote for Democrats.

Never have. Never will. Thank you for falling for the class warfare the Democrats want you and those like you to fall for, pitting Americans against each other. I'm sure Nancy Pelosi is proud of you right now.

69 posted on 12/21/2017 10:28:02 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: DoodleDawg
But it's their federal taxes that are going up. And the Congressmen are going to bear the brunt of their anger.

Federal taxes are "going up" in blue states because the tax base is being equalized across the board at the federal level.

I live in Illinois, a blue state (because of Chicago.) If you think the Democrat machine that's been corrupting this state for years aren't going to take it in the shorts in an election cycle or two if they don't do something to reduce the tax burden here, you'll need to think again.

The last Gubernatorial election proved that Chicago's influence on the state, at least for the Governor's mansion, can be overcome. (We won't get into how BAD Rauner has been as a Governor, however he's not a Democrat by party affiliation anyway.)

Most people don't know this however outside of Cook County and IIRC St. Clair County, Illinois is a pretty RED state. Most of the counties here are Republican led. The problem this state has is with Chicago and the urbanites that vote Democrat no matter what. That vote has been getting steadily diluted as people move out of Chicago (and often out of state) for the last 8-10 years.

I don't plan on staying here, however it won't be long before Illinois goes purple, then red as the old school democrats like Mike Madigan pass from this life to the next and are replaced with "less corrupt" thinking....

70 posted on 12/21/2017 10:33:53 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: cpdiii

You realize they have to pay those taxes before they can deduct them. Your logic is not logical.


71 posted on 12/21/2017 10:53:44 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Grampa Dave

Austin is worse (not rate wise), but price wise.

Real estate in Austin is like San Francisco.


72 posted on 12/21/2017 12:34:42 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: Jane Long

Baloney.

Midland County (and the entire Permian Basin) represent the core of tax revenue for the State of Texas on a per capita basis.

Everything above $1.09 per $100 has to be “shared” with the rest of the state. The result is our rates are very high for us to realize $1.15 per $100.

What you are repeating is not per capita numbers, but gross numbers spread out among the giant populations of Houston and Dallas. Y

es, Dallas and Houston pay more taxes. But they have millions of people. We have 150,000 and pay tens of thousands of dollars each.

We have exported money to support the rest of the state since oil was discovered here.


73 posted on 12/21/2017 12:40:17 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: davikkm

Haha. Elections have consequences...especially when you lose.


74 posted on 12/21/2017 12:42:29 PM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: MeanWestTexan

That is what our relative said re prices of homes.

Basically it would have cost about the same in the Austin area as his bay area house (5 bedrooms, family room, dining room large kitchen, a big kitchen eating area, an office area for her, and a two+ car garage.)

Your property tax bill cost, ended any possibilities of them moving to Texas.


75 posted on 12/21/2017 12:42:59 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Build Kate's wall! Keep illegals and illegal murderers/criminals out of America! MAGA! SLAP ACT!,)
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To: Sacajaweau

And that was his point. Take the issue of paying the big state tax up with your state.


76 posted on 12/21/2017 12:46:17 PM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: Jane Long

Here’s the reality:

Andrews County sends $32,000,000 to the big cities
Midland Count sends $32,000,000.
Seminole sends $26,000,000.

To put that in perspective, Midland has about 160,000 in the entire county.

Andrews has probably 50,000.

http://www.oaoa.com/news/education/article_5ee13fe8-fcc4-11e3-aaca-0017a43b2370.html

It’s just theft from big cities from little.


77 posted on 12/21/2017 12:48:39 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: peggybac

thx.


78 posted on 12/21/2017 1:54:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Sacajaweau
You realize they have to pay those taxes before they can deduct them. Your logic is not logical

Those taxes are between them and their state and not the federal govenment. As I said, equal income in New York and Equal Income in Texas the man in Texas pays more in Federal Income Tax than the man in New York. What happens in New York needs to stay in New York and not affect national tax revenue.

If the people in New York want a different tax system in New York elect someone else to state office. Your problem in New York or any other high tax state is your problem and not my problem here in Texas.

79 posted on 12/21/2017 3:41:42 PM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: davikkm

People forget three things. One is that people may pay more taxes but if they invest they will/have made it up plus some. Two, if they have a business they will make it up plus some in being able to do robust business in a thriving economy. Three if they are employed they may well get higher paychecks because employees will become more sought after.


80 posted on 12/21/2017 8:19:11 PM PST by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus?)
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