Seems like the campaign did pretty well with the situation they were in.
Odd that Bannon is the target; Moore almost won with a huge anchor tied to him.
All of a sudden, with Moore’s loss of the election the Conservative sources are all accepting that Moore is a proven sexual pervert and predator. Nothing alleged by women that have not pretty openly indulged in forgery has been shown to be true beyond conjecture and accusation and nothing so alleged was illegal at the time of the supposed occurrence of the events. We have lost the war if our side automatically accepts these sorts of baseless accusations on their face. All future elections involving conservatives will be treated the same way until the tactic backfires finally but by then there will be no conservatives in Washington at all. The conservatives are as bad as the Republicans and all fear to anger the Democrats.
I’m sick and tired of outsider pontificating on Roy Moore’s loss. If you aren’t from Alabama you do not understand why this happened. Moore’s loss was not due to Steve Bannon or Mitch McConnel, although Mitch McConnel was directly responsible for Moore winning the nomination.
Mitch McConnel threw millions of dollars into trashing Mo Brooks in the primary while virtually ignoring Roy Moore. No one liked the way Luther Strange was appointed and everyone knew he was a swamp critter, but he might very well have won if Mitch had stayed out of it. The avalanche of anti Brooks ads did manage to kill any chance Brooks might have had, but had the unintended consequence of suppressing turnout by potential Strange voters because they were disgusted by the obvious GOPe play. This allowed Moore’s hard core base to rise to the top. Mitch did it again against Moore in the runoff virtually assuring Moore the nomination.
Moore’s only claim to fame was his 10 Commandments stand. He started out by putting them on the wall in his Etowah County courtroom generating outrage by the liberal media, then parleyed that into winning election to the Alabama Supreme Court. He continued his grandstanding by placing a 10 Commandments monument at the Alabama Supreme Court and
defying court orders to remove it, leading to his removal from the bench. He failed when he tried to run for governor then managed to win election again to the Alabama Supreme Court where he was again removed for defying court decisions on gay marriage. His grandstanding has won him a core of support among single issue voters, but Alabama isn’t quite as redneck as the national media would lead you to believe. We are conservative but we (excepting Roy Moore’s base) are pragmatic.
Yesterday I went to the polls, held my nose and voted for Roy Moore because, as President Trump said, we need the seat. I came very close to staying home, not because of the accusations against Roy Moore, but because I have always considered Roy Moore to be the political equivalent of a TV preacher. Moore lost because many Republicans simply couldn’t stand the stench and stayed home. Pretty much everyone thought Moore would win, so voters felt comfortable standing by their principles and staying home...oops! The “November Surprise” probably cost him the election, but it shouldn’t have been close, and with ANY other Republican it would have been a landslide.
Doug Jones will be in office until the 2020 election and will lose in a landslide. Take it to the bank.
1. Republicans didn’t help this one.. they hindered, big time!! They didn’t want another conservative vote in congress to mess up their thing going with the dems...
2. Some Lousianians took the dems’s threat to remove Moore if he won.. seriously.. and didn’t want to deal with another election.. lazy bums they are.
3. The swamp is far from being drained... and Trump didn’t help this one soon enough nor loud enough.
4. The media won this one.. there are still too many establishment relics in LA and too many ill informed/out of touch with reality folks.
5. It was incident after incident ... mistakes/errors on the part of the conservative movement. Too much chatter every day all day, about allegations that should not have had a miniscule difference or notice among the voters or the viewers. What happened that long ago did not matter even if it had been true... it just didn’t count in the scheme of things... and compared to bill clinton and to hillary and to the dirty hands obama had for 8 years and the criminal hands going after Trump... all of which are momumental situations that should remove/charge/arrest/imprison all of them.. ALL of them! But our justice is not only delayed, it’s non existance.. and that should upset every American.
On the obama deals.. you can never.. never .. tell me he is innocent of anything you’d want to bring up. he openly lied to the public, routinely used every illegal power he could use, against the voters and against anyone he chose to lord it over and use. He was and is evil incarnate.. so you ask was he involved? Does the rooster crow in the morning? Yes, it’s his nature... thus it is with people like obama! and hillary.. and all who have fallen in step with them.
Will we ever see justice? ONLY If we who care, pursue it without ceasing... for as long as it takes!
Trump was right. Big Luther was the man to get behind. Bannon should have gotten behind Trump’s candidate instead of trying to stake out his position as movement leader. Trump is leading this movement, not Bannon. Luther Strange was never a McConnell guy. McConnell was simply trying to get his hooks into him so that he could own him down the road but Trump wasn’t about to let that happen. Bannon screwed this up royally.
The REAL story is that there are stupid, perverted, wicked Americans who will vote for someone who supports tearing babies into pieces up to the moment of birth.
None of us is safe, and the country is on a path to dissolution, as long as there are sick, evil Americans like that.
I like Bannon, his heart is in the right place but as a strategist he’s somewhere south of even the detestable Rove. He’s looking for any fight at any cost.
The cost happens to be that now, for at least the next year, he’s turned MAGA into Make America No Worse. Gridlock is the best we can achieve now with the Senate firmly in Never-Trump and de facto Democrat control.
So Steve, your gambit just took a year out of the Trump presidency.
Moore was so starved for cash he could not even afford to respond to media allegations, much less counter them.
Moore hooked climbed on the Bannon band wagon but Bannon didn't have a team of horses to hook up and pull the wagon.
Not so sure about this.
The Republican media was 24/7 anti-Moore.
The Republican Senate worked to get the Dem elected, before the WP smears even.
Neither is true, because if it weren't for the sexual allegations, Roy Moore would have won against Jones by a double-digit landslide, just as he defeated establishment Republican Luther Strange.
Having said that, I mentioned on another thread that Trump's seemingly odd endorsement of Strange over Moore may have been strategic, if rumors that Moore's alleged "victims" would come forward and make a scandal were already in circulation. That's at least as plausible as the alternative explanation, i.e. that Trump endorsed Strange in order to get Congressional establishment Republicans to go along with aspects of his agenda in return.
Washington DC, our MSM, our universities and cultural institutions —> One huge and growing inferno. The amount of fuel lying just outside the fire ring is beyond what any of us are imagining and it is only a matter of time until we all look back on this day, relatively speaking, as just one early skirmish.
There are no winners here, the losses are well spread, and the fools include anyone opening their mouths too wide the morning after ... without taking at least some time to deliberate over what is surely a complex situation.
I have great faith in America’s deplorables, truly our time will come, but we need leadership that is calm, deliberate, careful and at the same time bold/principled/articulate. Steve Bannon is not my cup of tea, but he has a great future if he simply regroups and comes back in this way, and on those terms I would want him to have a strong voice for our side. But just yelling that the others side s*cks is not going to win the larger war.
In the end, fates will be determined in the marketplace of ideas, with strong leaders buying and selling the best and winning products. Our side should not stoop to the politics of personal destruction and instead focus on what are clearly and resolutely compelling narratives for this country.
NEVER GIVE UP, Steve Bannon!
Now the left thinks it can pu$$t whip politics and regain power.
As recent history shows, two can play at that game.
I love all these day after critics. Bannon and Breitbart himself said defeating the Left wasn’t going to be easy. Winners don’t find scapegoats, they find a way to win. Get lost if you’re not in this to win. We don’t need critics, we need fighters.
Strange lost big to Moore. McConnell backed even a bigger loser.
Imagine that.
Steve Bannon’s loss my ass...
I wrote this on the tread praising Jones for his hard work that resulted in his win. As if...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3613215/posts?page=73#73
Moore barely lost.
Big loss? Hardly. It wasn’t a landslide.