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Moscow’s Extraction of ISIS Cadres from Syria Suggests Russia May Use Them Elsewhere
Window on Eurasia ^ | Nov 20, 2017 | Paul Goble

Posted on 11/21/2017 10:35:21 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose

For the last several years, Russian security services have driven Islamist radicals and others out of the North Caucasus and other regions of the Russian Federation under paid of jail or death to fight for ISIS in Syria, Israeli expert Avraam Shmulyevich says.

Now that the last redoubts of the Islamic State in that country have fallen, these same services, exploiting Chechens in Syria, have begun to extract these same people back to Russia, an action that strongly suggests, the president of the Israeli Eastern Partnership Institute says, that Moscow plans to make use of them elsewhere – and may even have them under its control.

One place where this is especially likely, Shmulyevich continues, is in Crimea where the ISIS cadres may stage terrorist actions that Moscow can the blame on the Crimean Tatars and thus gain understanding if not support for its repressive moves against that minority in the Russian-occupied Ukrainian peninsula.

Shmulyevich made these and other points in the course of an interview with US-based Russian journalist Kseniya Kirillova , although he was careful to say that he did not have definitive proof for these possibilities but that Moscow’s recent actions do not allow much room for any alternative conclusion (ru.krymr.com/a/28858018.html).

In the past, as in the run-up to the Sochi Olympiad in 2014, the Russian authorities have not even tried to conceal their role in pushing North Caucasians to leave and fight for ISIS, an effort the Russian media have suggested reduces the likelihood of terrorist actions within the borders of the Russian Federation.

Shmulyevich has investigated the ways in which some Islamists from Russia have gone to Syria in hopes of acquiring military skills that they could employ back at home, but those whom Moscow is now helping to extract are unlikely to take up arms against Moscow. Instead, it is far more likely that they will use their “skills” to promote Moscow’s policies.

“There are as yet insufficient data on the character of relations between Russia and ISIS,” the Israeli expert says. They might be limited only to a cooperative one based on common goals in particular places or they might be those of “a creature of Moscow,” especially if the Russian government follows Soviet precedents.

The most likely places such people could be deployed would be in the North Caucasus and in Crimea, locations where Moscow would be delighted to organize violent actions that could be blamed on Muslims of another stripe entirely. The only real limiting factor, Shmulyevich says, is that Putin doesn’t want to allow any terrorist action at all.

The reason is simple: the Kremlin leader portrays himself as the victor over terrorism in Russia and would not like to see that questioned as the election approaches. But at the same time, Putin’s behavior in the past shows that he is more than prepared to use those he controls to place blame on those who are his targets, be it Chechens in 1999 or Crimean Tatars now.


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Convincing conclusion as the numbers are quite telling.

"Russian fighters are joining ISIS in record numbers."

https://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/09/russian-fighters-are-joining-isis-in-record-numbers.html

1 posted on 11/21/2017 10:35:21 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: GoldenState_Rose

We’ve been the ones backing Al Queda in Syria. Some suspect this is what Hilary was doing via our outpost in Benghazi. McCain has also been accused of getting photographed with unsavory types in Syria

The fact that Muslims from Russia go to fight for ISIS isn’t anymore surprising than the Muslims from the UK who have done the same thing


2 posted on 11/21/2017 10:42:05 AM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

Hillary is not President now. Trump is. I personally trust this administration to do the right thing, although the clean-up of these messes have no easy answers, no perfect/final solutions. The messes are so bad.

Are you suggesting the U.K. is using the British Muslim recruits to ISIS/terror groups to serve their own ends the way the Kremlin is likely (and has historically) been doing in its own backyard?


3 posted on 11/21/2017 10:48:21 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: GoldenState_Rose
Moscow’s Extraction of ISIS Cadres from Syria Suggests Russia May Use Them Elsewhere

Paul Goble has served in various capacities in the U.S. State Department, the Central Intelligence Agency and the International Broadcasting Bureau as well as at the Voice of America and Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty and at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

LOL, Paulie is deep in Euro Globalist horse manure production.

4 posted on 11/21/2017 10:54:01 AM PST by Navy Patriot (America returns to the Rule of Law)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Not “Russians”, but chechens and Kazakhs.


5 posted on 11/21/2017 10:54:24 AM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Two ways to look at it:
1. Perhaps Russia wants them back to make sure they don’t get loose again.
2. Or maybe, as the article says, Russia plans to cause trouble...although they don’t have a history of doing that in the West - so maybe elsewhere.

By the way, it is the UNITED STATES that has recently let hundreds or thousands of these monsters walk right by our troops...so I don’t think we have much to complain about.


6 posted on 11/21/2017 10:54:55 AM PST by BobL ( I drive a pickup truck because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: tcrlaf

Those Chechens and Kazakhs, who Putin has been keeping very happy at the expense of ethnic Russian population.

See: Kadyrov and the kickbacks Chechnya receives.

Kazakhs and others make up for the labor shortfall of Russia’s demographic crisis.


7 posted on 11/21/2017 10:55:53 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: Navy Patriot

Oh Navy Patriot, by your standards even Abraham Lincoln would fail the “patriot” test!

You remind me of those people on Ron Paul forums who think Lincoln was a big military-industrial-complex founding fraud.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?222835-Abraham-Lincoln-worst-President-ever


8 posted on 11/21/2017 11:04:56 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: GoldenState_Rose

This guy is a Ukrainian partisan.

To post this unsubstantiated garbage without identifying that fact is disgraceful.

https://www.facebook.com/euromaidanpress.en/posts/617822315068241


9 posted on 11/21/2017 11:11:03 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Navy Patriot

Not to mention the “expert” cited in the article...

https://www.facebook.com/euromaidanpress.en/posts/617822315068241


10 posted on 11/21/2017 11:13:06 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner; BobL

2. Or maybe, as the article says, Russia plans to cause trouble...although they don’t have a history of doing that in the West - so maybe elsewhere.

Russia doesn’t want to cause trouble in the west?

In the past, the Soviets didn’t need any help getting sycophants from Hollywood, academia, and other elites to do their bidding. The legacy of which still exists to today considering the massive Soviet-style secularism and propensity towards socialism our society displays.

Even the U.N. and E.U. are institutions inspired by the Soviet model.

Today: Following the fall of the Soviet Union, Russia has done very well in seizing upon Western weakness to advance their ideological agenda, which has nothing to do with promoting Christian civilization, and everything to do with reviving their bygone empire of old.

And if the latter proves too difficult, then their goal is simply to incite chaos and instability in the West so as to redirect energy from the chaos and instability threatening their complex, multi-ethnic (including heavily Islamic) populations from within their own borders.


11 posted on 11/21/2017 11:17:40 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: Mariner; Navy Patriot

Sarah Palin predicted in 2008 that Putin would invade Ukraine if Obama was elected

The then vice-presidential candidate showed unexpected accuracy with ‘extremely far-fetched’ prediction six years ago

“After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama’s reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia’s Putin to invade Ukraine next,” said Palin.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/sarah-palin-predicted-in-2008-that-putin-would-invade-ukraine-if-obama-was-elected-9167833.html


12 posted on 11/21/2017 11:21:59 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: GoldenState_Rose
What a total crock of crap. The US recruited, trained, armed, paid, and protected ISIS from day one and now all of a sudden, . . . IT'S THE RUSSIANS !!!!

The US just let multiple long columns of ISIS troops drive out of Syria armed to the teeth, right through US checkpoints under the protective air cover of the USAF, but it was only because they had Russian passports?

13 posted on 11/21/2017 11:22:57 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin

I don’t think this article vindicates the U.S. it is speculating on what Russia’s current policy and current geopolitical interests may be with regard to ISIS fighters from Russia.


14 posted on 11/21/2017 11:24:21 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: GoldenState_Rose
Here is the Russian view of the the Chechens you apologise for:

3 days in hell: Russia mourns Beslan school siege victims 10 years on

15 posted on 11/21/2017 11:28:18 AM PST by Navy Patriot (America returns to the Rule of Law)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Rose,

YOU are a Ukrainian Partisan and American NeoConservative.

You are therefore entitled to all the derision you’ll receive here.

Russians! Russians Everywhere!


16 posted on 11/21/2017 11:33:47 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Navy Patriot

Navy Patriot,

1) It was our very own Sarah Palin warning us in 2008 about Putin invading Ukraine based on Obama’s then weak response to the Georgia invasion as Senator. Is she some pro Ukraine-globalist for suggesting such a thing as a negative prospect?

2) Putin is the Chechen apologist. He needs Chechnya and a stable government there. It is Putin who has given Chechnya financial kickbacks (as reparations from conflicts in the 90s) and allowing Kadyrov to run a de-facto Islamic theocratic republic. It is Putin who needs Chechen fighters to do his geopolitical bidding in the Middle East and elsewhere.


17 posted on 11/21/2017 11:36:32 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: GoldenState_Rose
Sarah Palin predicted in 2008 that Putin would invade Ukraine if Obama was elected

Which proves that Sarah was and informed, quality candidate well versed in understanding Russia and Russian affairs, not that Putin or Russia creates or uses Muslim Terrorists, that's Obama, Hillary, McCain, Soros, Georgia, Saakashvili and the Saudi's job.

18 posted on 11/21/2017 11:39:05 AM PST by Navy Patriot (America returns to the Rule of Law)
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To: Mariner

Actually Mariner, you are likely more pro-Putin than most Russians of today are - but they’re burnt out from their history and only the youth are putting up a fight now in the form of opposition protests.

Most Russians are happy to have Crimea, but a lot are tired of how far the lingering Ukrainian conflict has gone to split their families (many Russians have Ukrainian relatives), ruin their economy (Western sanctions + Russian counter sanctions), etc..

Certain nationalists are concerned about what they perceive to be the Islamization of Moscow due to Kremlin’s lose migration policies.


19 posted on 11/21/2017 11:40:54 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: Navy Patriot

You like Trusting Putin, but you are not Verifying. The stupidity of globalists does not automatically make him a hero.

Palin, after complimenting Putin in 2015:

But at the same time, she said that the United States will have to follow late President Ronald Reagan’s warning to “trust but verify” when it comes to Putin, emphasizing that “we have to be more vigilant than ever” when it comes to the Russian leader.

“Good, bad, or ugly, though, you have to give the man some due respect,” she said.

https://www.newsmax.com/Headline/sarah-palin-vladimir-putin-isis-syria/2015/11/17/id/702486/


20 posted on 11/21/2017 11:47:23 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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