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Those are beautiful cars, IMO.
1 posted on 09/23/2017 8:00:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Hyuandai... can’t even ripoff the name properly. Low end car maker.


2 posted on 09/23/2017 8:01:42 PM PDT by sagar
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Agree. My new Mercedes had a new electrical problem every other month. Traded it well before the warrenty expired.

My earlier BMW stranded me while still under warrenty.

Never again, Germany.


4 posted on 09/23/2017 8:04:09 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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Yes, they are. From what I have read and heard, they drive magnificently.


10 posted on 09/23/2017 8:12:34 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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Nürburgring is a horrible place to do developmental testing on a road cars because the better suited to the ‘Ring they are, the more awful they are on the road.


11 posted on 09/23/2017 8:17:11 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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If I want to play with a computer I’ll stay right where I am. If I want to drive a car...that means that I don’t want to play with a computer.


13 posted on 09/23/2017 8:25:46 PM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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Some pundit derided tire pressure instrumentation as stupid tech. To each his own, but it is a nuisance not to have pressure monitoring. One man’s bling is another man’s thing.


14 posted on 09/23/2017 8:29:08 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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Speaking of stupid tech, how ‘bout a car that won’t let you backup if your door is ajar?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3588146/posts


16 posted on 09/23/2017 8:34:39 PM PDT by upchuck (The consensus that matters is one that drums up support to enact legislation into law. ~ A. McCarthy)
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I like this guy’s attitude.

A luxury car with a 1000 page owners manual is a joke.


17 posted on 09/23/2017 8:35:05 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (The CBC: Deceiving Canadians since 1936.)
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>>Instead of focusing on fancy technology, Biermann believes the key to Genesis’s success is building reliable cars that will still feel like-new 10 years later. “In our G90 you will not find any air suspension, or active roll-bars, or active whatever. A camera sensing the road, and this stuff. It’s stupid. We have a solid Hyundai steel platform, tonnes of high-strength steel – okay, it’s a little bit heavier than the other cars – and we have adjustable shock absorbers, and that’s it.”<<

The interior of the Genesis looks very nice.


23 posted on 09/23/2017 9:37:46 PM PDT by EliRoom8
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I have a 2007 Hyundai that still runs well. It has been a good and reliable car, and was relatively inexpensive when we bought it.

I agree with this guy - I don’t want a “smart” car. I work with a guy that can start his truck from his cell phone - he thinks it’s cool. I think it’s stupid. Just give me a car that runs reliably and well for a long time, and doesn’t cost me an arm and a leg to keep on the road.


28 posted on 09/23/2017 10:29:52 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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I’m not much for disposable cars. My mechanic fixed a failed alternator on my W126 Mercedes recently for $15 parts. $60 labor. New brushes. First mechanical failure on that car in 5 years.

China cannot make a garden hose faucet that doesn’t leak; I’m sure not going to buy one of their s**!boxes.


31 posted on 09/23/2017 10:38:57 PM PDT by anton
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My SIL owns a Genesis Coupe. That is one fine automobile.

I ran an errand for my daughter and she handed me the keys. SIL later asked her, “How come the fuel mileage indicator reads so low all of a sudden?”

Heh heh heh.


39 posted on 09/23/2017 11:01:11 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (https://imgoat.com/uploads/645920e395/39513.gif)
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Doesn’t anyone make a drivetrain, four wheels, seats, lights, and a heater anymore?

My 2002 has more gadgets than I need. My best car was a 1987, with crank windows and fingerpop locks. I was glad to have AC, but lived without it before and since.

If I could buy a new car like that one I wouldn’t need to hear much from a salescritter. “You only have it in puke green? I’ve had one of those before, too. Here’s the check, gimme the keys.”


44 posted on 09/23/2017 11:46:06 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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From the company that sells hydrogen cars in the US.


53 posted on 09/24/2017 12:55:09 AM PDT by Cboldt
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I drive a 2016 Ford F-150 at work and I do not like some of the features that are in it just to be slick. I have to turn the dome light light on and off multiple times while driving and it is designed so there is no tactile sensation or sound when the switched is switched and there is no sensation to tell my finger whether it is on or off the switch and there is a delay in the operation. It detracts from safety. I have to look up at it to use it on a course that has no straight runs.

It reminds me of a Riviera back in the late seventies that had all its controls other than steering, brakes and gas, on a touch screen low on the dash. I drove one once for my boss who owned it and refused to even get into it again.

54 posted on 09/24/2017 1:38:26 AM PDT by arthurus
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I retired from a major US car maker more than a dozen years ago, and now work as a consultant dealing with a number of US and foreign carmakers. I tell anyone who will listen: “Forget about Toyota, Honda, BMW and Mercedes. The competitor you need to worry about is Hyundai.”


61 posted on 09/24/2017 4:11:32 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.)
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I disable as many of these technical “features” as possible.


62 posted on 09/24/2017 4:40:33 AM PDT by Salvey
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Actually the Hyundai guy is right.

The auto makers are focusing too much on stupid tech rather than building quality cars. 4G/LTE transponders, navigation, and a bunch of other superfluous garbage that drives up the sticker price and overall doesn;t add real value to the vehicle.

These days you can’t buy a basic car. They all have power this and that....until there is a fault in the wiring and then none of it works.

I had a Jeep Cherokee Limited. At about 7 years old, the wiring harness developed a problem. The power windows, seat, mirrors, antenna, locks, radio memory, and a bunch of other stuff stopped working including the AC. It was impossible to track down, and the car was undrivable in the summer.


64 posted on 09/24/2017 6:07:59 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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First they started with cup holders then, push button windows... now we don’t even turn a key. Silly expenses.


66 posted on 09/24/2017 6:16:32 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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I have a 2014 BMW 750 LI XDrive which I purchased what it had 19,000 miles on it three years old. The car came with the warranty up to 100,000 miles. Which is about how long I would keep it. It’s my second BMW prior to that I had several Audi A8L’s
During the 80s and 90s are used to buy brand new GM luxury cars but have not purchased any domestic cars since about 2005.
I have not had any problems with the German cars. But I would not go back to buying government motor cars or Chrysler cars.
I have also bought many Honda accord’s and Toyota Avalon’s both of these vehicles or bulletproof and good for high miles. Was great resale value.

I did try driving the top-of-the-line Hyundai Genesis but did not like the feel. It felt big and bulky and unresponsive. For the money it did not seem like a good investment. Perhaps if they had a real cheap lease for 24 or 36 months it might be worthwhile to drive it.

I view this car like the Volkswagen phaeton. The phaeton what a Volkswagen branded Audi A8L.
It was a great car but they could not sell it with the Volkswagen badge. The Hyundai suffers the same issue. The Genesis badge will that help it.


67 posted on 09/24/2017 6:58:22 AM PDT by ncfool (America Reborn 1/20/2017. Lets make sure we don't screw up,the opportunity to MAGA.)
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