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From Duty to be Armed to Permission to Carry
The Coach's Team ^ | 8/13/17 | Publius Huldah

Posted on 08/13/2017 8:26:51 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

“If the central government has the authority to tell a state it must accept permits from all the other states, then it also has the authority to tell a state it may not accept a concealed permit from any other states. If the central government can do these things it can set up a national concealed carry permit scheme and in essence bring into existence a national arms registry. That is exactly where this is headed.” Attorney Richard D. Fry 1 Some are touting the federal Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017 (HR 38) as a bill which would expand our right to carry. But if you will walk with me for a few minutes, I’ll show you a better path to take.

Let us look at the applicable First Principles, to which I propose we return.

• Gun control is not an enumerated power delegated to the federal government

Our federal Constitution does NOT delegate to the federal government any power over the Country at Large to restrict our arms. Accordingly, all pretended federal laws, regulations, orders, opinions, or treaties, which purport to do so, are unconstitutional as outside the scope of powers delegated. They are also unconstitutional as in violation of the Second Amendment.

The only power the federal government has over the Country at Large respecting arms is set forth at Article I, §8, clause 16 with respect to providing for the “organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia”. Pursuant to this clause, Congress passed the Militia Act of 1792 which required every able-bodied male citizen (with a few exceptions) between the ages of 18 and 45 to acquire a rifle, bayonet, ammo, ammo pouch, and report to his local Militia Unit...

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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; concealedcarry; constitution; guncontrol

1 posted on 08/13/2017 8:26:51 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

What I don’t understand is why a ravenous pack of lawyers haven’t sued the didley whop out of numerous governments for infrengements of the 2nd amendment.

Other than that they think that they can make more money by not doing so.


2 posted on 08/13/2017 8:36:24 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: fella

Those of us that understand a CCL is voluntarily stepping in a trap quietly go on about our business.


3 posted on 08/13/2017 8:46:32 AM PDT by SanchoP
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To: Oldpuppymax

I agree and have a better idea; Maybe the feds can make clear to the states that per SCOTUS in Heller V DC, individuals do have the right to keep and BEAR arms. SCOTUS incorporated this to the states via McDonald v Chicago.

Currently more than a handful of states infringe the 2A in this regard. There should be quicker consequence to this.


4 posted on 08/13/2017 8:49:44 AM PDT by umgud
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To: Oldpuppymax
I agree

But...

The time tested (by leftys) method of incrementalism, has worked for them. makes passing a bill toward national recognition of CCW a step in the right direction.

To sit back and wait for common sense to hit the congress, president and Supreme Court could take forever. By pushing forth a stopgap method is similar to what has been happening on the state level. Start with CCW and work towards constitutional carry afterwards

5 posted on 08/13/2017 8:52:19 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Courts unlikely to issue constitutional carry ruling. Enforcing Heller, maybe. Getting national recognition of CCW would be great move and begin move to reign in states and areas like California, NY, and D.C. that do not recognize and respect 2nd amendment.


6 posted on 08/13/2017 8:59:36 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Have any media outlets bothered to mention that with all the protesting and riots in Charlottesville there was not a single incident among all the open-carrying gun toters? (Proud NVa here).


7 posted on 08/13/2017 9:29:07 AM PDT by tjd1454
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To: Oldpuppymax

The Second Amendment, the only Amendment that uses the Phrase “Shall Not Be Infringed”.

Wonder why that is?


8 posted on 08/13/2017 9:30:39 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: fella

the only firearms registration they would get are those specific handguns that you can carry, legally, on that permit.

I have three different firearms on my permit but that is not the extent of my firearms collection. They never asked me about my other firearms or even if I had other firearms.


9 posted on 08/13/2017 9:56:46 AM PDT by oldenuff35
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To: SanchoP

BINGO!!!


10 posted on 08/13/2017 9:58:45 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Progress- the opposite of congress)
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To: oldenuff35

That’s because they already assume that You have an Arsenal.


11 posted on 08/13/2017 10:00:58 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Progress- the opposite of congress)
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To: Oldpuppymax

A right not exercised, is a right lost. My recommendation is buy weapons and ammunition and learn how to use them. I also would get a conceal carry permit, and continue to work against government encroachment on the right to bear arms.

JoMa


12 posted on 08/13/2017 10:48:11 AM PDT by joma89
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To: oldenuff35

Begging a dark state apparatchik’s permission to defend yourself is not liberty nor freedom.

Even dogs and cats don’t have to do that.


13 posted on 08/13/2017 10:58:56 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: SanchoP

Considering the dark state of our government that’s the smart thing to do.


14 posted on 08/13/2017 11:00:29 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Oldpuppymax

Country wide concealed carry reg while desirable to a large segment of the population, will never happen any more than voter picture ID. Far too many libs grinding axes against both.


15 posted on 08/13/2017 12:17:02 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: Oldpuppymax

We seem never tired of the repetition of the mantra that concealed carry permits are contrary to the constitution. But do we think our government is constrained by that piece of paper? In what dream is this true? And how does saying this ever make it true?

If one wants to conceal a weapon without a permit, please, one may shut up and do so with a clear conscience. But unless one is going to storm the jail and start shooting guards whenever anyone is arrested on a gun charge, one is not being consistent with the political philosophy and is admitting that one knows what this country is really like.

WARNING: Do not think that this person, who says that national reciprocity is an “unconstitutional gimmick,” is going to pay the legal costs of your defense if you get caught with a checked handgun at LaGuardia! Publius Huldah is not even going to visit you in jail, unless you can figure a way to make him think that it will get him more hits on his blog. You could pay him to come in and recite his little mantra at your trial, an “expert witness,” but when the judge forbids it, don’t expect a refund.

The idea is to oppose national reciprocity as if that were faithfulness to the constitution. It is an effective ploy as conservatives seem nonplussed before it, and quite sinister as it effectively denies us the means to protect our selves in the name of our sacred founding documents!


16 posted on 08/13/2017 12:19:32 PM PDT by BDParrish (One representative for every 30,000 persons!)
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