"They want you...They want you....They want you as a new recruit!"
Posted on 07/27/2017 8:20:26 AM PDT by sickoflibs
I think your near the bullseye!
The whole transgender issue in the military all came out of a White House directive under Obama. Congress never needed to get involved in it one way or another ... which means it was never necessary to add the restrictions as an amendment to the recent defense appropriations bill. As I said at the time, that was basically political theater (worthwhile, but unnecessary) for many members of Congress to enhance their conservative credentials.
As some astute liberals pointed out many times during the Obama administration, one of the dangers of relying on executive orders to implement policy was that it made it very easy for those policies to be terminated without any input from Congress at all.
Are any of the 209 Republicans who voted against the funding for gender reassignment surgery complaining about the end result? I saw senators complaining about the President’s order yesterday, I didn’t see any comments from the House.
I have talked to people who lived around “transgenders” and some of the stories are quite scary. I actually got this in a E-mail a year or two ago when the tranny in the military debate first started.
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” One time me and my friend ( who is a transgender male to female ) was at a store and we were browsing around when a little old lady came up behind my friend to ask them to help get something off a high shelf. and I am paraphrasing here: “Excuse me sir, could you help me with getting ( i forget what the item was ) off that shelf?”
Well my friend flew the complete “hell off the handle” as they whipped around and went on a five minute tirade saying things like “Do I look like a man?” and “Are you f**ing blind?” in a very aggressive manner. The poor old lady looked stunned as she was just innocently asking someone for help only to be verbally lashed out at by this “woman” that if she had any doubt about gender she knew for sure at this point that is was a man in a dress due to the aggressive nature of the lashing out she was receiving.
I remember standing there stunned as if just witnessing a Dr. Jekyll to Mr. Hyde moment. I remember thinking that if only my friend had just turned around and used some damned charm instead of flying off the handle and trying to FORCE their idea of how they should be referred to a kindly old lady. An old lady who just wanted something off a shelf and wasn’t consciously or maliciously thinking about the gender expression of the person she was asking.
After that day I took steps to slowly distance myself from that person so that I didn’t “dump them” but instead just lost contact with them via attrition. I didn’t want to wake that horrible dragon up that I saw that day in the store on accusations that I stopped being their friend because they were “trans” instead the real reason was because I saw how unhinged they could be for the dumbest and most innocent of reasons. It was like if anyone “appeared” to question their own self validation, even if it was an innocent mistake, they could fly off the handle. This wasn’t like someone with a short emotional fuse, but instead someone with a volatile emotional hair trigger.
A couple of months after the “incident” in the store I was talking to my cousin who is a tall woman who lives in the country and I told her the story. She laughed after I told her about it and i asked her why she laughed. She told me that sometimes after she does her chores on the farm she sometimes stops in at the local Wal-Mart to either pickup fixins for supper or things like motor oil for her husband. She said her chore clothes are overalls and she packs her hair into a hat to keep it clean, and that one day a little old lady came up to her from behind while she was in the store and asked “SIR” for some help getting something off a high shelf. She turned around and the little old lady apologized saying something like: “Oh I’m sorry ma’am”. She said she just smiled at the old lady and said “oh, don’t worry, it happens all the time because I am tall” and they both had a good laugh about it and went their separate ways after she had retrieved the item for the sweet old lady. After she told me this I thought how different that embarrassing experience could have been had she handled it like a genuine person would have.
I have talked to other people who have been acquainted to “trans” people and the one common thing that I have discovered is that if you ask enough people they all have stories of trans people flying off the handle when someone else innocently “mis-genders” them. People wonder why I consider trans people in the military such a bad idea. I just have tell them this story and how what would happen if a foxhole if someone under fire accidentally “mis-genders” their fellow soldier. Talk about an “un-friendly fire” situation... I mean i consider myself a progressive, but this incident I personally experienced and further collaborated similar incidents with other people who I would consider progressive as well leads me to think that there is a serious risk of having someone with a such an issue in any sort of military situation. I have to say “NO” to allowing transgender people in the military, they need to get their lives sorted out first and foremost and the military is not a place for them to be doing that.
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So yeah, this is from someone I know who is a “progressive liberal” who agrees with Trump on this issue, even though I am 100% sure they didn’t vote for Trump. I think just the whole idea of someone flying off the handle even if someone inadvertently calls them with a gender pronoun they don’t agree with is really scary, especially in the military.
1917 -Join the Navy and See The World
2017 - Join the Navy and get a government funded sex change operation and lifetime supply of sex change hormones and drugs
"They want you...They want you....They want you as a new recruit!"
And serve on the USS Castro Street or the USS Stonewall
Well there already is the USS Harvey Milk.
Yeah, and I hear the Russians and Chinese are hard at work developing a super sonic cruise twinkee to sink it.
Puts new meaning in the term cruising the high seas .
Whatever happened to the era of macho, macho man?
Even the Village People are on the outs with Obama era effeminate queer culture
Yeah, and I hear the Russians and Chinese are hard at work developing a super sonic cruise twinkee to sink it.
Puts new meaning in the term cruising the high seas .
Whatever happened to the era of macho, macho man?
Even the Village People are on the outs with Obama era effeminate queer culture
OK, time for a little rant this morning. To start it off I will say this: I UNEQUIVOCALLY SUPPORT THE DECISION OF OUR COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF DONALD TRUMP TO BAN TRANSGENDERS FROM SERVING IN THE UNITED STATES MILITARY!
I served 24 years in Uncle Sugars bestest Air Force and while I am sure that 95% or more of transgenders probably are capable Airmen, Sailors, soldiers and Marines that does not mean they are fit for military service.
The US Military is not a place for social experiments, it is not a place for playing dress up, it is not a place for activists. PERIOD! It is a place for people who are willing to serve their country and surrender their individual identity to become part of a single cohesive unit working toward a common result.
A US Soldier is not meant to stand out, a US Soldier is not meant to make a statement; a US Soldier is meant to do what they are told, when they are told and how they are told.
Most importantly the US Military works on a set budget. The military is not there to make sure that an ample supply of Testosterone or Estrogen or steroids or any other medicine that is required to transform is available.
The US military medical teams are there to ensure that US Military men and women are physically fit to serve AT ALL TIMES and to treat any injuries or illnesses as quickly and efficiently as possible and return the military member to full readiness. They are not there to inject hormones, install implants and randomly remove or create body parts for INDIVIDUALS that wish to be something else, and then take care of them as they recover while the service members teammates pick up their slack and do their job.
There was an old saying when I came in: If the military wanted you to have a wife, they would issue you one. Well today it is this: If the military wants Transformers they will contact Optimus Prime!
Krauthammer rather than address the merits of the policy -which in all likelihood he is in agreement with- attacks the manner of unveiling the policy. Poor delicate Charles can’t take Trump’s loutish style
Something else came out...like...no more teaching of PR crap....”it’s all about combat”. I’ll look for it.
I made the mistake of tuning in that tool Bryan Killmeade this morning. Talk about your whining bed wetter. He and his handwringing guest were pissing and moaning about how this should have been subject to hearings and deliberation and consensus building and how badly it was handled and all that claptrap.
This got started without any debate or consensus. Obama and Ash Carter just decreed that there would be trannies in the military as a parting sharp stick in the eye in their continuing program of humiliating the military and dismantling it brick by brick and tradition by tradition.
It started by decree and it can end by decree. I well understand that a Tweet is not the way to issue formal orders but the response by them could have been different.
As for Dunford, if he did respond in this way to the President, he needs to find a new job. You don’t do this kind of thing in public. He could have said many different things that would more than sufficiently indicate that he was waiting for more complete and formal orders through the chain of command than a Twitter line. It is only appropriate that you get formal written orders.
As for what Trump said to do. I thought it was pretty clear. No trannie will be allowed to serve in the military in any capacity from this time on. That means Nobody and Now. That means to reverse the Obama / Carter policy with effect immediately. If the JCS and Dunford can’t figure that out they need to be replaced. I’m sure there are plenty of well qualified people to take their place.
Trump possibly also took into account the possibility that some judge would overturn his ban on paying for gender reasignment, but banning trannies entirely was more likely to stand.
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