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Mike Lee pens must-read essay on Senate’s Obamacare replacement plan
The Blaze ^ | Chris Enloe

Posted on 06/25/2017 3:26:12 PM PDT by Art in Idaho

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To: Ray76

“The Republican scheme relies upon actions by a future Congress.”

Exactly. It’s like one of their sleight-of-hand 10 year budgets where they step on the spending accelerator the first 5 years while promising in the 5 “out” years they are really going to start cutting. The cuts never come because they were never intended to come. The promised cuts were to mollify those who weren’t on to their budget games.

“If they wanted they could repeal ACA with a simple majority. The problem is they don’t want to.”

Bingo. They don’t want to.


21 posted on 06/25/2017 5:27:20 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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To: Jane Long
Not just no, but HECK no.

Regardless how you feel about Beck and Mike Lee, I thought the article he penned summed up a lot of similar concerns that we all have expressed. I think it's appalling that only five senators are against the current BCRA.

The second paragraph really got my attention: "(BCRA) It cuts taxes. It bails out insurance companies. It props up Obamacare through the next election. It lays out plans to slow Medicaid spending beginning in 2025, but that probably won’t happen. And it leaves in place the ham-fisted federal regulations that have driven up family health insurance premiums by 140 percent since Obamacare was implemented."

A admit I haven't read the bill, but imho, Mike Lee's observations expose many red flags about the current bill.

Also, I like his opt-out idea for states and individuals. I hope at least that gets passed. If it is in the bill, that would open up the insurance across state lines idea.

"And so, for all my frustrations about the process and my disagreements with the substance of BCRA, I would still be willing to vote for it if it allowed states and/or individuals to opt-out of the Obamacare system free-and-clear to experiment with different forms of insurance, benefits packages, and care provision options."

22 posted on 06/25/2017 5:28:49 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Looks like someone wasn’t prepared to be in a position to actually be able to do anything.

Whoops.

I have no use for the blaze or mike lee.


23 posted on 06/25/2017 5:29:37 PM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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To: kingu

And the spinator, his staff and the rest of the congress creeps are EXEMPT from all this crap and cost.


24 posted on 06/25/2017 5:30:53 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Art in Idaho
" I now ask only that the bill be amended to include an opt-out provision, for states or even just for individuals."

Yeah, that's probably all we can get.

25 posted on 06/25/2017 5:35:49 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: HarleyLady27

Those three steps are a good starting place.

But we’ve somehow got to remove the lobbyists from this process. Representatives of Big Pharma and Big Health Insurance should not be writing this bill.

The “I’ve got mine” mentality has got to stop.


26 posted on 06/25/2017 5:38:54 PM PDT by upchuck (... you might not be interested in Shariah; however Shariah is interested in you. h/t dogcaller)
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To: Art in Idaho

This wouldn’t pass with fifty votes in the senate. Face it, Obamacare is here to stay.


27 posted on 06/25/2017 5:43:02 PM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: SharpRightTurn
Stay strong, Lee, Cruz, Paul, and Johnson. Repeal, enable across state lines sales of insurance, and then leave it to the states.

Totally agree. The reason I liked Lee's article, among other things, is he's showing some Fight! I'm getting so sick of not seeing any fight in the Republicans. Trump shows us some fight, but the others, not so much.

Fight On guys! This is a huge bill. No 'hurry up' before July 4th. No rushed deal. Get rid of the bad parts.

Call your congress critters. Just called mine. What do we have to lose! If we overwhelm the phones, it can't hurt.

As an aside, listening to Levin podcast from Thursday and he just said, "The house bill is 90% Obamacare, the Senate bill is 95% Obamacare. . They've had years to work on this. . all but five senators are embracing this, Obamacare. That's what it is. . this is a monstrosity. . we never move in the direction of free market capitalism, of individual liberty, of competition, of choice. ."

And this: "I'm also told that McConnell showed the draft of the senate bill to the K street lobbyists before he shared it with the rest of the senators."! An absolute disgrace and the epitome of corruption. We have NO representation! Is it time to water the tree of liberty?

28 posted on 06/25/2017 5:48:57 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: kingu

Our HMO Insurance Policy in December 2013 was $920 a Month (including separate Dental and Vision Plans).

Our HMO Insurance Policy in January 2017 is $1,980 a Month (including separate Dental and Vision Plans)

I am 13 Months from getting Medicare Coverage.
My Wife is 26 Months from getting Medicare Coverage.

Instead of saving $2,500 a Year as Obama promised, I am paying out $12,000 more a Year.

$2,500 (promised Yearly savings) + $12,000 (current Yearly cost) = $14,500, our true Yearly Obamacare Penalty.


29 posted on 06/25/2017 6:04:02 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: Art in Idaho
The ‘bami care’ was a TAX BILL...not a health care plan...that's this first step is to get the TAXES removed, then go on to the Second Step where the HHR will be redoing and modifying, and then step three is where either President Trump will approve it or send it back to have HIS bill done...

We would love to REPLEAL and REPLACE but thanks to bami, it's a TAX BILL, why do you think the “PREMIUMS” are going up, up and up!!!

30 posted on 06/25/2017 6:20:38 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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Recommend Levin's Thursday podcast, 6/22, here:

http://www.marklevinshow.com/audio-rewind/

He spends a lot of time on the health care bills. Guest Horowitz was great. Sounds like a complete mess and it's basically Obamacare.

Again, my takeaway if we currently have No Representation. We have taxation without representation. Didn't we have that in 1776? We have the house, senate and the presidency and this is the best we can do? Just damn. Where do we go from here?

31 posted on 06/25/2017 6:21:58 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Jane Long

Yep that’s the Mike Lee, little coward, amnesty, open borders (did you hear that the Mormons are going to open up a church in Cuba now) oh yeah...

Never Trump dimwitted Mike Lee who is in ‘rat’ Romney’s back pocket...

Yep that Mike Lee!!!

And yep that ‘Blaze’ who stood in Iowa and did all that crap to Cruz to make him the NEXT THING TO GOD...yeah that BLAZE and nut job Glenn Beck!!!


32 posted on 06/25/2017 6:23:58 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: HarleyLady27
The ‘bami care’ was a TAX BILL...not a health care plan...that's this first step is to get the TAXES removed, then go on to the Second Step where the HHR will be redoing and modifying, and then step three is where either President Trump will approve it or send it back to have HIS bill done...

I hope that happens, but with people like McConnell and the RINOs, how will Trump get his bill passed? At least Tom Price can do the redoing and modifying, or does he have to check with the lobbyists too?

33 posted on 06/25/2017 6:31:32 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: dynoman

Exactly. Instead he pees on the fire and curses the darkness.


34 posted on 06/25/2017 6:50:45 PM PDT by gogeo (When your life is based on a false premise...you are indeed insane.)
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To: dynoman

Amen.


35 posted on 06/25/2017 7:42:33 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: dynoman

“I’m sick of absolutist critics who never offer solutions.”

well, here’s a solution:

“The American Affordable Health Care Act is hereby repealed in it’s entirety”

That’s essentially the same solution the House passed about 76 times when they knew that it wouldn’t pass the Senate or would be vetoed by Obama?

Why won’t they pass it now that it could actually be fully enacted?


36 posted on 06/25/2017 9:30:08 PM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

“The American Affordable Health Care Act is hereby repealed in it’s entirety”

That’s essentially the same solution the House passed about 76 times when they knew that it wouldn’t pass the Senate or would be vetoed by Obama?

Why won’t they pass it now that it could actually be fully enacted?


EGADS!!! SEVENTY-SIX TIMES????

Agreed, a very sad state of affairs in the House these days!!! Kabuki theater :(


37 posted on 06/25/2017 9:35:33 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: HarleyLady27

I will never forget the convention.
Mike Lee is a Never Trumper.
Piss be his name.


38 posted on 06/25/2017 9:36:05 PM PDT by weston (SO HERE'S THE STORY: As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: gogeo

+1


39 posted on 06/26/2017 2:08:00 AM PDT by Does so (PARIS is like OPEC, except We're Winning!)
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To: catnipman

“Why won’t they pass it now that it could actually be fully enacted?”

It was a farce the 76 times they passed it, just like it’s a farce now. It couldn’t be fully enacted, they knew it before and they know it now. Besides that the house already passed health care reform, so the meaningless repeal bill is long gone, the repeal/replace bill is in the senate now.


40 posted on 06/26/2017 7:00:54 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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