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1 posted on 06/19/2017 11:02:37 AM PDT by w1n1
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“At close range, the blast of these lightweight small pellets hit like a solid fist. The thug in the picture on the right caught a blast at close range. Certainly, this is a postmortem image. Now, a shotgun is called a scattergun by many for a reason. The shot fans out quickly. “

Which is it. A close packed group or a quickly fanned out group?


2 posted on 06/19/2017 11:05:47 AM PDT by TexasGator
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For a thug, nothing can be more terrifying than the sound of a pump action shotgun racking a shell into the chamber for sound deterrent?

Why give up your position? I've never understood this.

3 posted on 06/19/2017 11:06:24 AM PDT by IamConservative (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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Over the years I have gone back and forth and still don’t know which is the best.

I guess the fact that I live in a rural area has a little to do with what I choose. Right now my Winchester Defender is loaded with 7, 2.75 inch OO buckshot.

I would not argue with anyone who chose other loads except bird shot is maybe a little too small.

I bought the Winchester defender strictly because of price. Well that and the fact that it is totally reliable. It cost only $189 at Walmart.

If money was no object it would be a Remington 1187 combat style. An 870 would also be great as would be a bunch more.


8 posted on 06/19/2017 11:11:59 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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Read later.


10 posted on 06/19/2017 11:14:11 AM PDT by georgiabelle
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For home defense, #7 birdshot. At home defense ranges it hits like a slug, yet doesn’t penetrate too many interior walls.


12 posted on 06/19/2017 11:15:24 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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I’ve got a 20 gauge loaded with some birdshot, but thought of ever having to use that in home defense gives me more than great pause. I’ve seen images of what an accidental shotgun blast can do even at distance. Last resort only and with no chance of hitting innocents.


13 posted on 06/19/2017 11:18:13 AM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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Ask Joe Biden


14 posted on 06/19/2017 11:19:39 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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If I had a shotgun, I would probably alternate between #4 Buck and 00 Buck. My thought would be #4 has more projectiles, more likely to score multiple hits and then follow up with a more concentrated punch of 00 Buck. Alternate until threats are eliminated. But, that is just me, if I ever even had a shotgun.


15 posted on 06/19/2017 11:19:44 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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What about heavy shotgun slugs? Unless you are living in big bear country...

Some of us do.


16 posted on 06/19/2017 11:20:38 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Inside a normal house maximum range is about 30 feet. At 30 feet any load will act pretty much like a slug. More so at smaller ranges.


17 posted on 06/19/2017 11:20:43 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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Rock salt.
22 posted on 06/19/2017 11:24:30 AM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (I don't give a damn about your feelings. Try to impress me with your convictions.)
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The 12 ga. flare round might be interesting on the receiving end.


23 posted on 06/19/2017 11:25:11 AM PDT by batterycommander (I learned my Artillery skills from the United States Marines. USNA 65)
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I have several different barrels for my 1100. Could I use the slug barrel with shot?


25 posted on 06/19/2017 11:26:11 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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Dragon's Breath round?
31 posted on 06/19/2017 11:35:55 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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1-1/2 oz. #4 Turkey load.


32 posted on 06/19/2017 11:37:42 AM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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Mine is a 20 gauge Ithica double with 3 buck. My belief is at close range, under 20 feet, little difference than a 12 gauge, two triggers, and my wife could handle the 20 if need be. I don’t plan on shooting anyone fleeing out the house, don’t want the hassle albeit someone did just that in my county a few months ago. The sheriff when pressed about the legality said: you got to know if you are a burglar most of the people in this county are armed.

The homeowner in that instance had a poster on is wall that said we believe in two things in this house, God and Guns and we use both.


33 posted on 06/19/2017 11:39:17 AM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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Centurion
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34 posted on 06/19/2017 11:43:31 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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No one ever mentions hearing protection. Discharging a weapon within a house can cause permanent hearing damage.


36 posted on 06/19/2017 11:55:12 AM PDT by Seruzawa (FABOL)
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I prefer Federal Premium Vital-Shok, 12 Gauge, 2 3/4”. There will be a lot of cleanup and some drywall repair needed. They may be hauling the perp’s liquified remains to the coroner in a bucket instead of a body bag.


40 posted on 06/19/2017 12:07:09 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Wiretapped Office of the Tagline of the United States)
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My thoughts. Typical pump without an extended magazine holds 4 in the magazine with nothing in the chamber (assuming you removed the migratory waterfowl plug).

I would put the first two shells in (last ones out) as rifled slugs, then I would put in a buckshot (No 2 to 0), then a goose (BB -round).

The idea is that the first shot fired (BB) would scatter for a fairly large pattern, and yet not be able to penetrate too far into another room. Your first shot would be most adrenaline charged. Your second shot should be more aimed and the person would likely be closer and so you want more knock down power.

At this point if you get a chance for a third shot, the person will either be very very close and you want maximum knockdown power OR they will have retreated and possible taken cover behind furniture or a wall. At that point if they are hiding you want penetration (aka slug).

And again the last one is a slug for the previous reasons.

Your mileage may vary.

44 posted on 06/19/2017 12:21:33 PM PDT by Robert357 ( Dan Rather was discharged as "medically unfit" on May 11, 1954.)
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