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Gun Registration and Confiscation in England and Wales
Gun Watch ^ | 31 October, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 06/04/2017 7:36:18 AM PDT by marktwain

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In light of the recent terror attacks in England, there has been some discussion of the motives for gun control in England. It was because the British elite feared an uprising.
1 posted on 06/04/2017 7:36:18 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“It was because the British elite feared an uprising.”

Which is precisely why our forefathers made the right to bear arms the “Second Amendment”. They knew how important it was in times like these.


2 posted on 06/04/2017 7:46:44 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The Constitution is an instrument for the people to restrain the government...Patrick Henry)
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In the olden days every free Englishman was required to have certain weapons in his home and to practice with the bow and arrow each Sunday after church, AND to appear at an “Assize of Arms” so the local lords could know how many armed men they could depend on.

The French, did not trust their serfs when given arms as the serfs then considered themselves free men. As a result, the French preferred Genoese Crossbowmen to back them up.

After gun confiscation and Dunkirk, England prepared to throw back a German invasion with those now standard traditional English weapons, the Garden Hoe, Hay rake and scythe.
Then American citizens decided to “SEND A GUN TO DEFEND A BRITISH HOME!”


3 posted on 06/04/2017 7:48:38 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: marktwain

They have no reason to change it now. To that sort, terror is just an example of the lower classes preying on the lower classes. “There’s a fox upsetting the chickens! Release the hounds! Tally ho!”


4 posted on 06/04/2017 7:49:10 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: All

Run, hide, tell


5 posted on 06/04/2017 7:55:04 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: marktwain; PROCON

Ping-Worthy?


6 posted on 06/04/2017 7:57:05 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“After gun confiscation and Dunkirk, England prepared to throw back a German invasion with those now standard traditional English weapons, the Garden Hoe, Hay rake and scythe.
Then American citizens decided to “SEND A GUN TO DEFEND A BRITISH HOME!””

Yup, the NRA organized a gun collection drive for the UK home defense. I’ve read that about 100,000 guns were sent over.


7 posted on 06/04/2017 7:58:01 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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Yup, the NRA organized a gun collection drive for the UK home defense. I’ve read that about 100,000 guns were sent over.


After the war, only a very few were returned. Most were dumped in the Atlantic rather than return them to the United States.


8 posted on 06/04/2017 8:01:33 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain
One of my late friends was quite the amateur historian, and he often filled me in on bits of English history which made it easy to see that the Brit powers-that-be were quite willing to screw their own people and those who were on the periphery economically and geographically. I believe some of my own ancestors which include displaced Irish and Scots (as well as Scots-Irish) were "beneficiaries" of the tender mercies of the English ruling class. I knew a little about the Anglo history of denying possession of arms by we mere pissants, but learned something here today.

Mr. niteowl77

9 posted on 06/04/2017 8:06:37 AM PDT by niteowl77 (Trust- but verify.)
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To: snoringbear

And NONE came home...


10 posted on 06/04/2017 8:10:56 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: snoringbear

And after the war, the Brits destroyed the donated American guns.


11 posted on 06/04/2017 8:17:36 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: niteowl77
The globalist oligarchy is playing a dangerous game. They want the chaos and murder by Moslems, the chaos and revolt of people being murdered indiscriminately by the Moslems and similar manipulated races.

The Oligarchy believe they will hold the superior weapons and remain safely sequestered while the collapse of Western Civilization happens with starvation and disease killing the large majority of the ‘useless eaters’ the oligarchy fears now.

The game being played is 'reduce population to manageable levels' through starvation, chaos, disease and civil war. Some know how to find the oligarchy and end their safety zones.

12 posted on 06/04/2017 8:18:36 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: marktwain

Many years ago I used to read articles by Colin Greenwood. I always thought he was the clearest thinking voice in the gun control debate.

The one point he made over and over was that before gun control, Great Britain, or maybe it was just England, I can’t recall for sure, had less than 5 armed robberies per year.

The reason what he had to say was so important is he destroyed the argument that Britain had a lower murder rate than the U.S. That was supposed to show how effective gun control was.

In fact it was demographics which was the major controlling factor and gun control actually did harm instead of good.


13 posted on 06/04/2017 8:27:37 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; marktwain
Then American citizens decided to “SEND A GUN TO DEFEND A BRITISH HOME!”

Dean, I'd like to see you do a piece on the NRA effort to arm England during WWII because of the Firearms Act of 1920.

14 posted on 06/04/2017 8:29:40 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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Modern gun control in the U.K. also tended to be a response to whatever was going on in Northern Ireland. The laws that were created and passed in about 1967 that required permits for legally acquiring shotguns was partly inspired by the then recent killing of two British police officers and increasing violence in Belfast and elsewhere in Northern Ireland. The killing of the two police officers sparked public calls for the return of the death penalty that had been abolished in about 1965, and the gun controls enacted then most likely acted as a diversion from such demands.

The continuing IRA related mayhem in the 1970s and 1980s most likely played a role in the 1987-88 legislation (semi autos and pump actions being banned) that had the Hungerford massacre as it’s public excuse.

Thomas Hamilton’s bloody rampage in 1996 in Dunblane that gave the government it’s public excuse to ban almost all pistols and handguns most likely had the Good Friday Peace Accords with the IRA and Sein Fein as an underlying influence as well.


15 posted on 06/04/2017 8:30:26 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: MileHi

Maybe I could do a review of the Old NRA articles on this.

They covered the subject quite well.


16 posted on 06/04/2017 8:51:49 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Maybe I could do a review of the Old NRA articles on this.

I read some back when. I thought that story would do well to highlight the consequences of your post today.

17 posted on 06/04/2017 9:03:06 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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18 posted on 06/04/2017 9:22:56 AM PDT by PROCON
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To: MileHi

I posted this on Freerepublic a few minutes ago:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3557977/posts

It is about the guns to Britain story.


19 posted on 06/04/2017 9:48:43 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Right in the middle of that photo of the confiscated guns is an 1847 Colt Walker replica, a black powder cap and ball revolver.


20 posted on 06/04/2017 9:53:41 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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