Posted on 06/04/2017 7:36:18 AM PDT by marktwain
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| Guns Hidden from the Government and Confiscated in Wales |
How, then, should policy on firearms controls be affected by the facts produced? The system of registering all firearms to which Section I applies as well as licensing the individual takes up a large part of the police time involved and causes a great deal of trouble and inconvenience. The voluminous records so produced appear to serve no useful purpose. In none of the cases examined in this study was the existence of these records of any assistance in detecting a crime and no one questioned during the course of the study could establish the value of the system of registering weapons.It was not until much later that Greenwood discovered the purpose of the English firearms registration laws. They were passed to facilitate firearms confiscation in the event of civil unrest or revolution. From Colin Greenwood, May 15, 2000. The term "Constitutionalists" below means British Constitutionalists:
Constitutionalists might argue about whether in Britain, Statute law can over-ride the basic principles of the Common Law, but in 1920 the Government of Britain was in fear of revolution and documents such as the. Cabinet Diaries reveal debates about the number of aircraft available for use against insurgents within the British Isles. In that climate, the registration of firearms (other than shotguns) was imposed for the purpose of “ensuring that all arms are available for redistribution to friends of the government”.Extensive research by Professor Joyce Lee Malcolm buttresses what Colin Greenwood found. From Guns and Violence, the English Experience, page 162:
Second, the Firearms Act of 1920, which took away the traditional right of individuals to be armed, was not passed to reduce or prevent armed crime or gun accidents. It was passed because the government was afraid of rebellion and keen to control access to guns.Widespread door to door searches and confiscations of firearms did not happen in England and Wales for the purpose of turning those arms over to government supporters, though that was the initial purpose of the registration of firearms. Rather, the searches and confiscations occurred incrementally, over the last hundred years, as the government kept tightening requirements for ownership and made possession of arms ever more expensive and difficult. The decisions to impose more restrictions were often made in secret and not know to the public until long after the fact. Malcolm does an especially good job of documenting this process.
“It was because the British elite feared an uprising.”
Which is precisely why our forefathers made the right to bear arms the “Second Amendment”. They knew how important it was in times like these.
In the olden days every free Englishman was required to have certain weapons in his home and to practice with the bow and arrow each Sunday after church, AND to appear at an “Assize of Arms” so the local lords could know how many armed men they could depend on.
The French, did not trust their serfs when given arms as the serfs then considered themselves free men. As a result, the French preferred Genoese Crossbowmen to back them up.
After gun confiscation and Dunkirk, England prepared to throw back a German invasion with those now standard traditional English weapons, the Garden Hoe, Hay rake and scythe.
Then American citizens decided to “SEND A GUN TO DEFEND A BRITISH HOME!”
They have no reason to change it now. To that sort, terror is just an example of the lower classes preying on the lower classes. “There’s a fox upsetting the chickens! Release the hounds! Tally ho!”
Run, hide, tell
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“After gun confiscation and Dunkirk, England prepared to throw back a German invasion with those now standard traditional English weapons, the Garden Hoe, Hay rake and scythe.
Then American citizens decided to “SEND A GUN TO DEFEND A BRITISH HOME!””
Yup, the NRA organized a gun collection drive for the UK home defense. I’ve read that about 100,000 guns were sent over.
Yup, the NRA organized a gun collection drive for the UK home defense. I’ve read that about 100,000 guns were sent over.
Mr. niteowl77
And NONE came home...
And after the war, the Brits destroyed the donated American guns.
The Oligarchy believe they will hold the superior weapons and remain safely sequestered while the collapse of Western Civilization happens with starvation and disease killing the large majority of the ‘useless eaters’ the oligarchy fears now.
The game being played is 'reduce population to manageable levels' through starvation, chaos, disease and civil war. Some know how to find the oligarchy and end their safety zones.
Many years ago I used to read articles by Colin Greenwood. I always thought he was the clearest thinking voice in the gun control debate.
The one point he made over and over was that before gun control, Great Britain, or maybe it was just England, I can’t recall for sure, had less than 5 armed robberies per year.
The reason what he had to say was so important is he destroyed the argument that Britain had a lower murder rate than the U.S. That was supposed to show how effective gun control was.
In fact it was demographics which was the major controlling factor and gun control actually did harm instead of good.
Dean, I'd like to see you do a piece on the NRA effort to arm England during WWII because of the Firearms Act of 1920.
Modern gun control in the U.K. also tended to be a response to whatever was going on in Northern Ireland. The laws that were created and passed in about 1967 that required permits for legally acquiring shotguns was partly inspired by the then recent killing of two British police officers and increasing violence in Belfast and elsewhere in Northern Ireland. The killing of the two police officers sparked public calls for the return of the death penalty that had been abolished in about 1965, and the gun controls enacted then most likely acted as a diversion from such demands.
The continuing IRA related mayhem in the 1970s and 1980s most likely played a role in the 1987-88 legislation (semi autos and pump actions being banned) that had the Hungerford massacre as it’s public excuse.
Thomas Hamilton’s bloody rampage in 1996 in Dunblane that gave the government it’s public excuse to ban almost all pistols and handguns most likely had the Good Friday Peace Accords with the IRA and Sein Fein as an underlying influence as well.
Maybe I could do a review of the Old NRA articles on this.
They covered the subject quite well.
I read some back when. I thought that story would do well to highlight the consequences of your post today.
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I posted this on Freerepublic a few minutes ago:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3557977/posts
It is about the guns to Britain story.
Right in the middle of that photo of the confiscated guns is an 1847 Colt Walker replica, a black powder cap and ball revolver.
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