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Constitutional Carry on the Move in Wisconsin
Gun Watch ^ | 1 June, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 06/03/2017 6:11:12 AM PDT by marktwain


The Wisconsin legislature is moving forward with Constitutional Carry in bill AB 247.  In 1998, the people of Wisconsin voted for Constitutional Carry in a state referendum amending the state constitution. The amendment, which created Article I, Section 25, is very clear. It received 74% of the vote. From Article I Section 25:

 The people have the right to keep and bear arms for security, defense, hunting, recreation or any other lawful purpose.
AB 247 is a comprehensive bill that puts Section 25 into practical law in Wisconsin.  From fox6now.com:
MADISON -- A proposed bill would allow people in Wisconsin to carry concealed guns without a permit or training. The state's largest police union is against the proposal, while supporters say it's really just a slight change to the current concealed carry law.

At Fletcher Arms in Waukesha, it is easy to find those who believe efforts to bring "constitutional carry" laws to Wisconsin are on target.

"The lack of a training requirement should not equate, in people's minds, to a lack of people having training," Nik Clark, president of Wisconsin Carry said.

The bill would make Wisconsin the 13th state to allow concealed carry without a permit, or the training that comes with it.
Here are the 13 current Constitutional Carry states.  Some analysts differ on how many states there are, because the state laws differ. The vast majority of people in the following states can carry concealed or openly, without a permit from the government. They are Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Vermont, Wyoming, and West Virginia.

Wisconsin was the 49th state to pass a concealed carry permit law. Open carry has always been legal in the state. The Wisconsin legislators studied the law in other states and then wrote their law. When the permit law was finally passed, it was one of the best in the nation. As a result, there are now over 320,000 permit holders in Wisconsin. They have been shown to be exceptionally law abiding.

The Constitutional Carry bill, AB 247 shows the same kind of care. The law is comprehensive, and corrects many defects in current Wisconsin statutes.

 From  wisconsin.gov:
Analysis by the Legislative Reference Bureau 
Current law generally prohibits an individual from carrying a concealed weapon unless the individual has a license to carry a concealed weapon that is issued by the Department of Justice or unless the individual has a law enforcement identification card indicating that he or she is a qualified current or former law enforcement officer. This bill eliminates the general prohibition against going armed with a concealed weapon without regard to licensure status
This bill also eliminates current law prohibitions against carrying firearms in specified places, but retains the current law that allows certain  persons to post buildings and grounds so that individuals who carry a firearm in violation of the posting commit trespass. For instance, this bill eliminates the prohibition on carrying a firearm on school grounds and, for persons without a license to carry a concealed weapon, in a school zone. Instead, this bill allows schools to post their buildings and grounds under the trespassing laws. An individual who violates the trespassing provision is guilty of a Class C misdemeanor if the individual is in a posted school building and a Class B forfeiture if the individual is on the posted grounds of a school.
Other provisions in the bill are summarized below:

Eliminates prohibitions on carry in public buildings generally, but allows posting under the trespass law for certain sensitive government buildings such as police stations, prisons, and secure mental health facilities.

Eliminates prohibitions on carrying a gun or crossbow in a wildlife refuge

Eliminates prohibitions on carry on an all terrain vehicle

Eliminates prohibition on possession of a bow, crossbow, or firearm while shining a light on wildlife. (this has primarily been used against people viewing wildlife at night in car headlights. Hunting with lights is still prohibited.)

Follows federal law by allowing people with carry permits and/or law enforcement ID cards to be exempt in school zones.

Modifies the Wisconsin permit process by allowing non-residents to obtain a Wisconsin permit.

Requires the granting of a permit if training has not been completed, but the applicant meets all other requirements, as a "basic" license.

Provides for the creation of a state permit that meets federal standards, if a federal standard is imposed.

Eliminates the prohibition on the possession of electric weapons, such as Tasers.

Changes the state definition of "firearm" to be congruent with the federal definition that excludes muzzle loaders and antique and replica firearms.

The bill has significant support in the Assembly and the Senate. There are 40 co-sponsors in the Assembly, and 11 co-sponsors in the Senate. There are 99 voting members of the Assembly. 64 are Republican. There are 33 voting members in the Senate. 20 are Republican.

Two sources on the scene have communicated to me that Governor Walker will sign the bill if it reaches his desk.

The Senate Committee on Public Safety is holding a hearing on the bill on 31 May, 2017.

©2017 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice and link are included.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; constitution; wi; wisconsin
For what has been considered a "blue" state, Wisconsin is doing some good things.

Governor Walker has done very well. He showed he could beat the Establishment media/Democrat machine.

1 posted on 06/03/2017 6:11:13 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“... or any other lawful purpose.”

This phrase is problematic. What’s to prevent a future democrat legislature and governor from declaring carrying a handgun as unlawful? Remove that phrase from the bill.


2 posted on 06/03/2017 10:27:17 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: marktwain
Greg Pruett, founder of the Idaho Second Amendment Alliance, is doing yeoman's work in Wisconsin, helping them on this. He's dividing his time between here and there, and that's got to be tough on his family, but he's dedicated. Keep up the great work, Greg!

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

3 posted on 06/03/2017 10:58:54 AM PDT by wku man (Just One Gun, the latest from 10 Pound Test - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6uFqQenIU4)
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To: wku man

Good to know! Pruett has proved his effectiveness. Wisconsin has not had a really effective pro-Second Amendment organization.

I have often said that one or two dedicated individuals could make an enormous difference in Wisconsin firearms law.

Pruett seems to be doing it.

I wondered how this was happening. Your post explains much.


4 posted on 06/03/2017 8:46:44 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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