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To: Sean_Anthony

Significant increase in military funding was absolutely necessary and worth the tradeoffs this time.

In the end Trump is right, you either need to get 60 R senators, or else you need to get rid of the filibuster on legislation. I support the latter, myself.


2 posted on 05/02/2017 8:12:49 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on

n the end Trump is right, you either need to get 60 R senators, or else you need to get rid of the filibuster on legislation. I support the latter, myself.


The Democrats are not filibustering, they are obstructing and the GOP is letting them.

In a real filibuster, the opponents filibustering must remain on the Senate floor
continuously speaking to keep the filibuster alive.

Now Democrats just check a little box that says filibuster.

In the good old days, they actually wheeled sick Senators onto the floor in wheel chairs to serve their time on the filibuster.


10 posted on 05/02/2017 8:23:27 AM PDT by rdcbn (.... when Poets buy guns, tourist season is over ...)
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To: babble-on

Trade offs ? What trade offs ? Funding PP, no money for the wall? Etc etc. it’s a Democrat wish list. We won!! And it still doesn’t matter.


16 posted on 05/02/2017 8:29:27 AM PDT by Runner4life
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To: babble-on

You actually use strategy, you break out that military spending, you push the Democrats to go on the record to vote against it, a bit of meaningless symbolism since it will pass the house. In the senate, there’s enough votes from those who are solid or going up for re-election that it’d pass as well.

At the end of the day, he’s buying votes to avoid a vote on a bill that would hurt the other party. That is such a massive gift, for a party which has a long history of never delivering on their promises.

But can you imagine the amount of capital he could get out of vetoing the porkzilla bill and then upending the table by putting forward his own choice of speaker, someone who’s not a member of congress who he suggests can actually challenge congress to organize and push forward useful legislation and actual budgeting?

This deal just puts everything Trump said he wanted on the sidelines and there’s every reason to assume that Democrats will not follow up on any backroom promises.


20 posted on 05/02/2017 8:34:56 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: babble-on

I love Trump but I don’t see why he’s saying shut it down in September. What will be any different in September?

Nothing. So why not shut it down now and fight for what’s right?


25 posted on 05/02/2017 8:44:00 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns)
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To: babble-on

no, it was not “worth the tradeoffs” and please sit out politics in the future if you are that much of a milquetoast wimp


28 posted on 05/02/2017 8:49:16 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF OBAMACARE REPEAL THAT IS WORSE THAN KEEPING IT ONE MORE DAY***)
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To: babble-on

“Significant increase in military funding was absolutely necessary.”

I think a significant percentage of Republican voters were more concerned with too much government spending and we end up with more not less and so much wasteful spending on Obamacare.

If the roles were reversed, the Democrats would accuse the Republicans of not listening to the American people and causing a shutdown. They never say “That’s all we could do.”

It is always easier to shut the government down 5 months down the road than now. We will see.


34 posted on 05/02/2017 9:39:19 AM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: babble-on

Honey you the GOP are

60 Republicans is better than 60 democrats

But it’s not enough

The republicans are such weasels

They want Trump to fail


36 posted on 05/02/2017 9:41:27 AM PDT by wardaddy (Multiculturalism: Everyone wants to inhabit the world of white men with no white men in it)
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To: babble-on

Pence on Rush now. Sounds pathetic. Blathering on and on about $21B for military while letting dims get everything they want. We control all 3 branches of government and can’t pass a sane spending bill. PP and refugee resettlement in there. What a joke!@&$(;:


39 posted on 05/02/2017 9:46:05 AM PDT by petercooper (Why don't polls ever add up to 100%?)
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