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DAANG! ..Cruz Openly Mocks 3 Phase Obamacare Replacement Plan: ‘That Ain’t Gonna Happen’
RedState ^ | 03/19/2017 | Andrea Ruth

Posted on 03/19/2017 11:54:17 AM PDT by ForYourChildren

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To: DoughtyOne
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61 posted on 03/19/2017 1:29:28 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
There have been those saying that if you put everything Cruz wants in reconciliation and get it through Obamacare can still be revived until you finally kill it with a non-reconciliation bill (presumably requiring 60 votes or nuking the filibuster first). Those then poo poo Cruz's comments and favor the Ryan 1-2-3 plan with phase 3 to happen after midterms when they hope to have 60 votes. I'm paraphrasing obviously, but trying to be fair about it.

Well, if you need 60 votes eventually in either case (of which I'm not sure) why not get as much up front as you can. Ryan bill doesn't help anyone much except the insurance companies and the medicaid moochers who weren't poor enough to qualify for medicaid pre-expansion up front. MY premiums will keep skyrocketing and they're already above the income poverty line. Cruz's plan kills the mandates NOW that are pushing up premiums and deductibles and making actual healthcare unaffordable both to receive and for doctors to provide. Save the many with the Cruz plan NOW and scr*w the moochers, the insurance rent keepers, the lobbyists and the politicians they've bought!

The midterm senate races aren't being fought in moocher territory, they'll be fought over those currently in insurance h*ll. Do the Cruz fix now and if you really need to laminate it with 60 votes you'll have them in two years. Cruz is willing to let Pence play the hero and Trump claim the credit if he can be sure there will be true credit to claim. Yes the Rats will claim we played hardball, but they always claim that even when we've been the worst squishes. Ignore their complaints and enjoy the schadenfreude from having the clever lawyers and Harry Reid style willpower on our side for a change! Then do it to them over and over again. A LOT of sacred sows need to squeal an active higher before all our problems are fixed.

62 posted on 03/19/2017 1:32:45 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Waiting for the tweets to hatch!)
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To: Jane Long

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63 posted on 03/19/2017 1:34:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: miss marmelstein

That’s bananas! I’d be livid. I AM livid - for you!

Ours are $1300 - for 2, one 55 and one 51. Got the cheapest, crappiest plan available too. Very few doctors on it. Doesn’t matter because the deductible is $6000.


64 posted on 03/19/2017 1:43:17 PM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian)
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To: ForYourChildren

Cruz is dead right. Phase 1 is it. If it is not in Phase 1, it is not in the final bill. Period. Lyin’ Ryan knows this.


65 posted on 03/19/2017 1:44:38 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.it is hugh and series)
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To: fwdude

No they aren’t because Cruz could have never been elected.


66 posted on 03/19/2017 1:49:57 PM PDT by dforest
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To: MayflowerMadam

I’m sure he’d be thrilled to know you’re finally coming around to what many of us here have known all along.


67 posted on 03/19/2017 2:01:46 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Fedzilla must die!
Repeal it. Let the market work.
Charity is the work of God through His people, not government.


68 posted on 03/19/2017 2:06:00 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: ForYourChildren
Requesting help from fellow Freepers. My local left-wing newspaper, The Anniston Star, also known as The Red Star, ran a story today, Residents fear losing coverage under GOP health plan and asked for readers to submit stories about their experiences with Obamacare. They are obviously trolling for positive stories extolling Obamacare as opposed to those which reflect negatively on Obamacare.

This rag has been a progressive fish wrapper as long as I've lived in Anniston Alabama (59 years) and its editor(s) never miss a chance to bash conservatives, gun owners, Christians, pro-lifers, Republicans (you get the picture) while at the same time singing praises to their Pantheon of gods (Hillary, Obama, Carter, etc) and their progressive causes.

As a retired federal employee, I was largely unaffected by Obamacare; however, I know of others who really took a hit. I've read, in various threads over the past year, how some of you have lost your coverage and been forced to pay exorbitant premiums/deductibles in order to find coverage and I thought, who better to tell their stories than our very own Freepers, who are intelligent, passionate, articulate, engaged, and am certain can write a mean letter to the editor. If you're willing and able, submit your letters to:

News@annistonstar.com

or

The Anniston Star
Attn: Newsroom-Health Care
P.O. Box 189
Anniston, AL 36202

I'd love to see them inundated with Obamacare horror stories :-)

69 posted on 03/19/2017 2:06:16 PM PDT by Micro aggressor (Obamacare, Health Insurance, Premiums)
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To: CottonBall

Well, we never got far enough to check out deductibles - maybe they were two bucks.

Actually, we laughed. I mean, what can you do?! I wrote to Pres. Trump; he has yet to answer me.


70 posted on 03/19/2017 2:12:10 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Defiant

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71 posted on 03/19/2017 2:14:47 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: CottonBall

https://samaritanministries.org/

This one works real well for me and my family.


72 posted on 03/19/2017 2:15:18 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: BeadCounter

Cruz was talking about some maneuver he could pull to get 51 votes to vote for this potential bill. So which is it? Is he for it or just playing both sides as usual?


73 posted on 03/19/2017 2:15:42 PM PDT by BeadCounter ( The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness -)
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To: arthurus

...turned over to the free market.

I’m with you on this. That the Left has convinced too many that the government should now be involved in health & insurance, is an idea applicable only to a socialist state.

Cruz, as one of only a few true Conservatives in Congress, is hesitant to illuminate this, but, I’m sure this is his core belief.

Let’s not forget, ObamaCare passed without one single Republican vote.

As Jesus said, ‘the poor will always be with you’

If Jesus said it, no earthly congress can change it.


74 posted on 03/19/2017 2:36:24 PM PDT by Paisan
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To: ForYourChildren

Multi-step is doomed to fail because Democrats and bureaucrats won’t let it go past step 1.
All or nothing.


75 posted on 03/19/2017 2:42:53 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: ForYourChildren

He’s right; it isn’t. The RINO Congressional leadership has no intention of implementing Phase 2 or 3.


76 posted on 03/19/2017 2:50:11 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I agree with you. Senator Cruz is the Constitution genius. Senator Paul is a doctor. Let them put their fields of expertise together to do a fix that passes. And, oh yeah, it’s time to DO SOMETHING about the renegade fake Republicans in the HOR and US Senate.


77 posted on 03/19/2017 2:52:44 PM PDT by grania (only a pawn in their game)
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To: BeadCounter

Cruz want to pass a GOOD repeal & replace bill with his 51 vote “maneuver”. He doesn’t want to pass the monstrosity called RYANCARE at all. The GOPe RINOs in the Senate plus the House RINO leadership are using the 60 vote closure threat as an excuse for why they “can’t” pass a good bill. Cruz is calling bullshit on them.

Cruz is on OUR side folks, he’s not the enemy.


78 posted on 03/19/2017 3:21:44 PM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: Paisan
Let’s not forget, ObamaCare passed without one single Republican vote.

But it is being retained, maintained, and defended by the Republicans. They get too much money and valuable goodies from it. They fear they will lose their campaign money and their post Congressional lifelong income as lobbyists and consultants.

79 posted on 03/19/2017 3:44:14 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Paisan
effectively Democrats. You stay in a terminally Democrat state and continue to financially support a Leftist Socialist government with your taxes and fees. It's like "conservatives" who complain about the total lack of actual education available in the public schools yet keep their children in public schools and thereby support the dis-education and social/political programming of their children.
80 posted on 03/19/2017 3:48:50 PM PDT by arthurus
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