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Sheriff Offers Victim a Gun, Gun Shop Gives a .38
Gun Watch ^ | 12 February, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 02/15/2017 3:59:10 AM PST by marktwain

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To: OldSmaj

The reasons interest me because I’d like to clue geezerly friends and relatives in on how to lessen the risk of being victimized. By anyone, though usually younger people. Unless it’s an older driver. Learning what makes a good target might help someone avoid being one.


21 posted on 02/15/2017 6:34:25 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: Geronimo

If some lowlife needs shot,I’ll be glad to give him a royal sendoff with my USP.The cops can take it,I’ve got another one in the safe.
Always carry a gun that you can trust with your life,a low cost pistol is no bargain when you really need it.


22 posted on 02/15/2017 6:50:22 AM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: OldSmaj

Herr Walther?Personally,I’m good friends with Heckler and Koch.


23 posted on 02/15/2017 6:53:09 AM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: Farmer Dean

I carry a VP9 on my 4 o’clock at all times too...the compact Taurus is in the center map box between the seats, it’s extremely reliable, I have never had it fail to eject or fire one time at the range even with cheap crap steel ammo...

Do you shoot your USP suppressed? I have a PPQ Navy in 9mm I shoot suppressed but want something else, can’t decide between the USP or a Sig P226, any advice?


24 posted on 02/15/2017 7:12:09 AM PST by Geronimo ( Trump, sump pump, bump...)
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To: mewzilla

I’d suggest, in no particular order:

Get your business done in daylight
Minimize exposure, reduce ‘recreational shopping’, only shop for necessities and &c. If you need exercise, get an elliptical, not a mall parking lot.
When you must shop or otherwise, go to reputable stores in reputable neighborhoods.
Get your ccw, practice and carry it religiously.
When in public, especially in vulnerable areas, look alert. Be alert.
Look like the wolf. You may be old, but if you look and act like you still have some teeth, the other predators are likely to look for some easier sheep to fleece.

That sort of thing.


25 posted on 02/15/2017 7:17:19 AM PST by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: mewzilla
The reasons interest me because I’d like to clue geezerly friends and relatives in on how to lessen the risk of being victimized.

I understand your reasoning...but the unfortunate fact this day and age, is that no one is immune to these cretins.

I really, really do hate to put it on a racial basis, but I tell anyone that asks...a young (12 to 40 years old or so) black male, in a darkened area, dressed in dark clothing with their stupid hoodies...is a threat.

Period.

Facts and verifiable statistics prove the statement.

The young black thug has learned, through conditioning and being victims them selves, that a lone man, older, usually white (although being black does not deter them), is going to be carrying something of value, especially in the vicinity of a fast food establishment, liquor store, gas station, etc...around a usual late night closing time.

I rarely, VERY rarely put myself in such a situation, but when circumstances warrant, I do NOT leave my gun in the holster.

It is in my hand, ready.

Call it paranoia, fear, whatever, I could care less...but the bottom line is that I will NOT be a victim and even at 66 years of age, I still have the strength and the BALLS to protect myself from these pieces of crap that prey on what they think are the WEAK.

I'm much better trained and have much more experience than the usual "geezer", but all anyone has to have is a strong will to survive and a desire to see these worthless turds be flushed.

If I go down, I will take some with me...and I do truly think that attitude is a palpable thing, that it can be detected by these preying thugs...and 99% of the time, they will turn away from someone like me.

My father, although not 150 lbs soaking wet, almost to his death bed, could project a menace that I personally saw cow some men that were half or less his age...and he did it simply by attitude.

But to reiterate, I am not a racist...I am a realist.

The youngish crackhead white boy can be as much of a threat as some of these urban-jungle thugs...and the crack head young white girls are a story of mayhem unto themselves.

26 posted on 02/15/2017 7:31:20 AM PST by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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To: Farmer Dean
Herr Walther?

Herr Walther had a propensity for making slightly under-powered "gentleman" pistols and then bolstered their reputation by forcing them down the police forces of Europe's throats.

Some of them are works of art and some very good rip-offs are out there, as in Bersa.

I do possess a Walther and a couple of Bersa's, one in .380 that I carry daily.

I carry it daily because I have confidence in my ability to put the docile little round pretty damned close to where it will do the most good.

(Or bad?)

In any event, I've found that a lot of folks will gradually give up on carry if the chosen carry pistol is too heavy.

After about a week of daily carry of a 44 ounce 1911 and a weighty pair of magazines...a lot, and I do mean a LOT of them, will simply lay it aside.

Plus, investing a grand or so in a pistol that you may have to give up to the DA for several eons, if you use it in lawful defense, is not appealing.

Ergo...the used Bersa Thunder .380.

Light, cheap (less $125 or so used, about $300 new) and will hold 9 rounds of specialized ammo (some are hitting around 1100 fps now)...not bad for an old geezer that want's nothing more than to be left alone.

As for Messrs Heckler and Koch...I love 'em, but they are sure as hell proud of them and although I do have one...it's not a carry gun, for the reason I stated above.

Same for Sig...whatever his name is.

At this stage of my life, having made sensible investments and living longer than most would have bet on, I possess the means to own pretty much whatever firearm I happen to fancy, but age and prosperity has not rendered me stupid.

I will not give up a gun to a DA simply because I defended my life with it, unless said gun is a quality "throw away".

Can you imagine the heartache associated with surrendering a custom Ed Brown or Les Baer or even a built H & K, to a heartless District Attorney, simply because such costly precision had been used to defend your own life?

27 posted on 02/15/2017 7:50:56 AM PST by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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To: OldSmaj

I’m curious as to how you would be able to deny a police order to surrender your firearm as evidence after a shooting. Not to say that such would be impossible, just wondering what the process would be. My home defense weapon is a KSG, which is not an inexpensive tool, and I too would like to be able to retain it in the aftermath of an encounter, especially since I would have to think that thre are probably a few members of the criminal element bright enough to conclude that a homeowner might well be disarmed in the immediate aftermath of a breakin and decide to try their luck.

Certainly, I might have other firearms at my disposal, but they might not be the best solution for home defense e.g. Savage 700 or something.


28 posted on 02/15/2017 9:43:11 AM PST by Little Pig
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I’m curious as to how you would be able to deny a police order to surrender your firearm as evidence after a shooting.

Don't think you would have much choice in it.

Of course, it depends on the District Attorney and certainly the circumstances of the event, but my bet is on it definitely being taken, even if temporarily.

Some agencies will handle a firearm taken as evidence as a valuable piece of property, knowing it will be returned...others...just don't give a rat's ass and it'll be put in a plastic bag and thrown in an evidence locker for whatever period of time.

And, regrettably, there is always the "accidental misplacement of evidence", or, just downright thieving bastards that think what YOU have is what THEY should have.

So, again, I advocate carry of the best you can find with it uppermost in your mind that you may lose it if you use it, yet what price defense of life?

I would, however, like to think that a use inside your home is much less likely to result in confiscation as opposed to one in public.

It's a gamble...but again...what price do you place on your life and those of your family?

I talked about a cheap Bersa, but I have no hesitation to use whatever "tool" I feel will fit the job at hand, as every gun I purchase is intended to be used.

Except, maybe that 1st Gen Colt SAA I picked up for a song, the other day.

But even that, I would not own if I felt as though I couldn't shoot it.

29 posted on 02/15/2017 2:10:20 PM PST by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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