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As Donald Trump Denies Climate Change, These Kids Die of It
nytimes.com ^ | Jan. 6, 2017 | Nicholas Kristof

Posted on 01/09/2017 2:04:32 PM PST by PROCON

TSIHOMBE, Madagascar — She is just a frightened mom, worrying if her son will survive, and certainly not fretting about American politics — for she has never heard of either President Obama or Donald Trump.

What about America itself? Ranomasy, who lives in an isolated village on this island of Madagascar off southern Africa, shakes her head. It doesn’t ring any bells.

Yet we Americans may be inadvertently killing her infant son. Climate change, disproportionately caused by carbon emissions from America, seems to be behind a severe drought that has led crops to wilt across seven countries in southern Africa. The result is acute malnutrition for 1.3 million children in the region, the United Nations says.

Trump has repeatedly mocked climate change, once even calling it a hoax fabricated by China. But climate change here is as tangible as its victims. Trump should come and feel these children’s ribs and watch them struggle for life. It’s true that the links between our carbon emissions and any particular drought are convoluted, but over all, climate change is as palpable as a wizened, glassy-eyed child dying of starvation. Like Ranomasy’s 18-month-old son, Tsapasoa.

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KEYWORDS: climatechange; fakenews; globalwarming; thechildren; trump
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Climate change, disproportionately caused by carbon emissions from America, seems to be behind a severe drought that has led crops to wilt across seven countries in southern Africa.

Whoa, Trump isn't even President yet and he's already causing drought in seven African countries......It's SCIENCE!

Looking forward to many more of these shrieking liberal OP-EDS over the next 4-8 years.

1 posted on 01/09/2017 2:04:33 PM PST by PROCON
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To: PROCON

Does the NYT publish anything but Fake News after Nov 9?


2 posted on 01/09/2017 2:06:53 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: PROCON

The author of that article belongs in a mental hospital.


3 posted on 01/09/2017 2:08:03 PM PST by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: PROCON

No one denies climate change. The climate changes all the time.
People deny that man is the direct primary cause and that taxing man will prevent or make climate change better. You can not predict next weeks weather accurately so don’t tell us you can predict the weather 100 years from now!


4 posted on 01/09/2017 2:08:10 PM PST by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: PROCON

Thanks for reminding me to buy some more Eli Lilly stock. Prozac and Seroquel sales for nut cases such as Khristoph are surely off the charts.


5 posted on 01/09/2017 2:08:28 PM PST by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz)
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To: PROCON

We know this because droughts have never happened before./s


6 posted on 01/09/2017 2:08:39 PM PST by D Rider
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To: PROCON

This is beyond insanity.


7 posted on 01/09/2017 2:08:49 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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Climate change, disproportionately caused by carbon emissions from America

Bullshit.

More idiotic fake news from a fake news website.

8 posted on 01/09/2017 2:09:20 PM PST by NorthMountain (Northmountain)
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To: PROCON

“Climate change, disproportionately caused by carbon emissions from America, SEEMS to be behind a severe drought that has led crops to wilt across seven countries in southern Africa.”

SEEMS to be - UTTER BULLSHIT passing for scientific finding


9 posted on 01/09/2017 2:09:31 PM PST by LeonardFMason (LanceyHoward would AGREE)
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To: Paladin2
Does the NYT publish anything but Fake News after Nov 9?

No. And they were exclusively purveyors of the finest in fake news before November 9.

10 posted on 01/09/2017 2:10:10 PM PST by NorthMountain (Northmountain)
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To: All

When I want to be sure the news is fake, I always reach for the Kristoff.


11 posted on 01/09/2017 2:10:49 PM PST by pluvmantelo (Boomer Presidents:The Grifter, The Midget & The Traitor. Hoping Trump is The Boss)
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To: PROCON
Hey Nicholas Kristof:


12 posted on 01/09/2017 2:10:56 PM PST by SoFloFreeper (Isaiah 25:8)
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To: PROCON

Climate change and man made climate change are not the same thing.

Very few would claim that the Earth’s climate does not change.

The debate is does the action of MAN have any effect.

Well, I think on a small regional area, things humans do could effect the climate of that area. However, can the action of humans change earth’s climate? I doubt it.

In the early 1800s a volcano in the Pacific erupted putting enough pollution in the air to actually change the earths climate for a year but it was not permanent.

The whole man made climate change is nothing more than a way for the left to push their socialist views on to the world.

It is fake science.


13 posted on 01/09/2017 2:11:05 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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She is just a frightened mom, worrying if her son will survive

So where is Madagascadaddy? Why ain't he paying some bills?

Or was that kid somehow the result of Divine intervention?

14 posted on 01/09/2017 2:11:07 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: PROCON

15 posted on 01/09/2017 2:11:42 PM PST by dfwgator
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Hmmmm...Madagascar is closer to China and India.

Damn, it must be Karl Rove's racist weather machine, deliberately targeting poor countries with those satanic emissions.

16 posted on 01/09/2017 2:11:47 PM PST by rfp1234 (DinosorosExtinction)
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To: PROCON
America causes carbon emission disproportionately? Probably so--we are less than 5% of the world's population and may produce more than 5% of the carbon emissions. But it's easier for the ineffable Kristof to blame the US than to blame countries more flagrantly causing pollution now, like China.

Apparently malnutrition was never a problem in Africa before the invention of the automobile.

17 posted on 01/09/2017 2:12:41 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: PROCON

18 posted on 01/09/2017 2:13:09 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: PROCON

Yeah, right...there were never any severe droughts until capitalism...


19 posted on 01/09/2017 2:13:18 PM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Paladin2

This worthless paper has been lies since 1851.


20 posted on 01/09/2017 2:13:27 PM PST by Mozilla (Truth Is Stranger than Fiction.)
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To: PROCON
These Kids Die of It.

Stop! You guys are killin' me.

21 posted on 01/09/2017 2:13:45 PM PST by windsorknot
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Or was that kid somehow the result of Divine intervention?

<looking out window> There was a star in the East last time this happened...Did I miss it?

22 posted on 01/09/2017 2:13:54 PM PST by thulldud
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To: LeonardFMason

Seems, may, might, could cause, will probably, experts agree, scientists believe.....Yeah SCIENCE!


23 posted on 01/09/2017 2:14:24 PM PST by PROCON (Onto the Great American Rebirth!)
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To: PROCON
Isn't Nicholas Kristof that guy that Jane Curtain's character on Weekend Update was based on, the one that Dan Aykroyd would answer by saying "Jane, you ignorant slut."
24 posted on 01/09/2017 2:15:00 PM PST by Steely Tom ([VOTE FRAUD] == [CIVIL WAR])
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To: PROCON

The government of Madagascar has more than do with this child and mother’s suffering than “climate change”, but of course you can’t expect an idiot reporter from the Slimes to tell you that. All government entities are more compassionate than the three evils in this world according to liberals: Trump, Russians, and climate change.


25 posted on 01/09/2017 2:15:50 PM PST by dowcaet
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To: PROCON

Someone ought to tell them that the big polluters are Communist China and India.


26 posted on 01/09/2017 2:16:02 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: PROCON

27 posted on 01/09/2017 2:16:12 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: PROCON

There were never any droughts anywhere before America’s carbon emissions that are somehow worse than China and India’s greater emissions. All bad weather in the world is magically America’s fault. Who knew?


28 posted on 01/09/2017 2:16:55 PM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: PROCON

Jesus, these people are completely unhinged.

They make me rethink my gun control position.

We need to keep guns away from them.


29 posted on 01/09/2017 2:17:08 PM PST by Lazamataz (TRUMP LIED TO ME!!!! ....He said I'd get sick of winning.... AND I'M NOT SICK OF WINNING YET!!!!)
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To: PROCON

Wow. The NYT parodies itself. “Trump Denies Climate Change. Women, Children and Minorities Hit Hardest”


30 posted on 01/09/2017 2:17:13 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: PROCON

and the answer is- of course- America should be overcome with suicidal guilt, turn off all factories, stop driving and flying and return to the Dark Ages. Coincidentally- that’s what Islam demands too....hmmmm.


31 posted on 01/09/2017 2:17:44 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam- it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: Hugin

The frustrating thing is that 62,000,000+ Americans believe this manufactured hoax.


32 posted on 01/09/2017 2:18:57 PM PST by PROCON (Onto the Great American Rebirth!)
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“Climate change, disproportionately caused by carbon emissions from America, “

Kristof, you nor anyone else can prove that to the preponderance of evidence standard.

Fake news.

5.56mm


33 posted on 01/09/2017 2:21:02 PM PST by M Kehoe
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"disproportionately caused by carbon emissions from America,"

The largest producers of CO2 emissions worldwide in 2016, based on their share of global CO2 emissions

China 28.21%
USA 15.99%

"Total human greenhouse gas contributions add up to about 0.28% of the greenhouse effect."


34 posted on 01/09/2017 2:22:44 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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“Climate change, disproportionately caused by carbon emissions from America, seems to be behind a severe drought that has led crops to wilt across seven countries in southern Africa”

What Completely & TOTAL BS!!!!! China is the worlds leader in emissions and even all of this total emissions are still not behind any severe drought.

You can have your misplaced ideas, however we must all use the same FACTS!!! (Not CNN BS talking points)


35 posted on 01/09/2017 2:26:34 PM PST by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: D Rider

Beat me too it! Never heard of droughts in Africa before? Cue the 1980s.


36 posted on 01/09/2017 2:26:39 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: dfwgator

37 posted on 01/09/2017 2:27:26 PM PST by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: PROCON

NYT has really outdone themselves.

They’re leasing out their floor space, it won’t be long till they’re gone.


38 posted on 01/09/2017 2:28:15 PM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: 48th SPS Crusader
No one denies climate change. The climate changes all the time. People deny that man is the direct primary cause and that taxing man will prevent or make climate change better. You can not predict next weeks weather accurately so don’t tell us you can predict the weather 100 years from now!

And my liberal friends cannot rationally respond to those statements.

39 posted on 01/09/2017 2:30:27 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: PROCON

You have GOT to be kidding me.

This one takes the cake of every irresponsible, hyperbolic, hysterical BULL FECES GARBAGE I’ve read on the faux subject of “climate change.”

Sheer lunacy.


40 posted on 01/09/2017 2:31:20 PM PST by workerbee (America finally has an American president again.)
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“Yet we Americans may be inadvertently killing her infant son.”

#Fakerthanfakenews


41 posted on 01/09/2017 2:32:04 PM PST by lacrew
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Exactly!


42 posted on 01/09/2017 2:35:47 PM PST by D Rider
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“Yet we Americans may be inadvertently killing her infant son. Climate change, disproportionately caused by carbon emissions from America, seems to be behind a severe drought that has led crops to wilt across seven countries in southern Africa....”

Inadvertently? No way, it was on purpose!

SEEMS TO BE? C’mon man, you KNOW we are responsible.

Trump is responsible because of some deal he made to make millions while killing kids! /s


43 posted on 01/09/2017 2:37:53 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Paladin2

CO2 always rises when Hollywood flies in special guests, each person in his own private plane.


44 posted on 01/09/2017 2:40:16 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: PROCON

Media has stooped this low? Damn...


45 posted on 01/09/2017 2:40:53 PM PST by Professional
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...seems to be....

besides all the other mish\mash...that right there is rock solid concrete science.
46 posted on 01/09/2017 2:42:06 PM PST by stylin19a (Hey obamas-it's Ray Charles time - "Hit the Road Jack"...you know the rest)
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Hey,Nikky Baby...

Those people are dying because they live in a nation that would have to come up a long way from where they are to be a third world hellhole, with corrupt, incompetent rulers and hampered by UN rules from making any money off of their rich and unique natural resources.

Trump could probably quadruple the GNP of Madagascar and keep the little kids from starving within a year of taking over, if they elected him to be president down there.


47 posted on 01/09/2017 2:43:56 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Innovative
This is beyond insanity.

unfortunately fruitcakes will lap it up as a fact.

48 posted on 01/09/2017 2:44:36 PM PST by cssGA30005
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To: PROCON
New research, just published in the bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, concludes that human-caused climate change exacerbated El Niño’s intensity and significantly reduced rainfall in parts of Ethiopia and southern Africa.

The researchers calculated that human contributions to global warming reduced water runoff in southern Africa by 48 percent and concluded that these human contributions “have contributed to substantial food crises.”


Oh,really??
49 posted on 01/09/2017 2:45:00 PM PST by Girlene
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To: PROCON

last time I looked all the hurricanes formed off the west coast of Africa and the winds moved then westward to the US; that being so How does carbon emission from the US reach Madagascar


50 posted on 01/09/2017 2:45:12 PM PST by jrd
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