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1 posted on 12/21/2016 1:17:20 PM PST by relictele
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To: relictele

In 1988 Illinois went blue, not red.

http://presidentelect.org/images/e1988_ecmap.GIF


2 posted on 12/21/2016 1:19:59 PM PST by MeganC (Hate crime: The heinous act of disagreeing with a liberal.)
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To: relictele

Smells like a Vanity

Where is the Bonfire ?


3 posted on 12/21/2016 1:21:09 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: relictele
Is even the strongest GOP candidate automatically condemned to starting 104 EVs in the hole?

Look at it this way, the more the leftists congregate in these states, the easier it becomes for us to win other states-- like Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan. Give them their 104 votes, give us the bulk of the remainder.

4 posted on 12/21/2016 1:22:17 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: relictele

California needs to be broken up into three states.

One along the coast, one North of the Tehachapis and west of the Sierra Madres from Mammoth Lakes up and the third south of the Tehachapis and east of the Sierra Madres from Mammoth Lakes down.


6 posted on 12/21/2016 1:23:37 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: relictele

As these states become more and more hellish places to live, they will lose population. This is already happening in Illinois,
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3506858/posts and I suspect it is happening in New York as well.

At census time, reductions in population will result in reductions in congressional representation, and in the number of electoral votes.

This could be a problem that corrects itself, albeit, perhaps not as quickly as we’d like.


7 posted on 12/21/2016 1:24:05 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: relictele

Has anyone yet done an analysis of how things would have turned out had there been universal apportioned EV like Maine and Nebraska? That would level the playing field but would have to be done at the state level and I doubt NY and CA would opt in.


12 posted on 12/21/2016 1:35:05 PM PST by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #MyPresident #MAGA)
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To: relictele

Illinois seems reachable. All of the states around have gone red, solidly so in some cases (Iowa, Missouri, Indiana, and Kentucky) and strongly trending in the others (Wisconsin, Michigan), and Chicago is basically the poster child at this point for everything that’s wrong with Democrat rule.

As a born and raised Californian, I can confirm that winning state anytime soon is a lost cause, but might be more useful as a foil. The footage Trump got from a couple of visits out to California of liberal hysteria looking like a literal zombie apocalypse I think drove a lot of middle Americans into his camp. Roving bands of maniacs waving Mexican flags, burning American ones, and hunting down anyone who thinks differently like prey is not a good look for the home of progressive liberalism.

New York is interesting. Outside of NY metro, it seems to have be already going the way of neighboring and similar Pennsylvania and Michigan, the question is whether enough inroads can be made into the city to tip the balance statement. I think so, after all it wasn’t that long ago that Giuliani was ruling the roost there.

In sum, I think the GOP let California and Chicago turn into post children for liberalism run amok, then use those examples to turn everywhere else red.


13 posted on 12/21/2016 1:41:27 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: relictele

We are two nations within a set of borders. One third of the nation viscerally hates another third, and the last third is utterly clueless. Democrats will keep polarizing and sooner or later there will be violence.

The path to avoid this is to destroy the left. Ignore and marginalize the media, they are no longer needed and openly destructive. Reach out to blacks and erode democratic support in that community. Deport illegals and shut down immigration. Trump already began the appeal to union members, making leftist union leadership irrelevant.

This nation can only be saved by making the left a minority party.


19 posted on 12/21/2016 2:31:11 PM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: relictele

Until the end of time I will argue this point:

Dems/Libs are RED

Restofus are BLUE

Liberal media gave us what is blindly-accepted.

The Union was blue; shoulda stayed that way.


20 posted on 12/21/2016 2:44:16 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: relictele
New York is just as welcoming but the Morlocks, er, Mexicans aren’t exactly enamored with Rust Belt winters and NY is watching its native population flee the state.

Dang straight.

My kids are leaving NY for greener pastures and mr. mm and I are looking forward to that day.

All us Upstaters here HATE what NYC has done to the state government and out taxes.

Cut NYC off at the border and push it out to sea and NYS joins the rest of the country as a red state.

23 posted on 12/21/2016 11:00:33 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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