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Efforts Begin To Challenge States Clinton Won
Resistance Feed ^ | 11-25-2016 | Rhett October

Posted on 11/25/2016 7:09:22 PM PST by rhett october

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To: JerseyDvl
Ahhh, stuff it and let the other people here decide with our clicks.

Ahhh, stuff it and let the other people here decide what to criticize.

141 posted on 11/26/2016 11:46:49 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: rhett october

Too late. Hilary already conceded victory to Trump. She can’t take that back. Trump is president elect. Nothing can change that.


142 posted on 11/26/2016 11:48:16 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.)
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To: humblegunner

Ha! I was going to include you in my reply you crazy old coot...lol. Good luck in your continued blog pimp crusade.


143 posted on 11/26/2016 12:10:26 PM PST by JerseyDvl (PRESIDENT TRUMP trumps hate and racism! Put some ice on it Hitlery ;-)
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To: dsm69

They most likely already off their duffs. Why tell the Enemy anything? Wars are not won that way. They probably knew about this crap way before we did.

I suspect they knew when Mr Trump chose his special counsel.


144 posted on 11/26/2016 12:14:00 PM PST by madison10 (Almost disenfranchised Michigander.)
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To: JerseyDvl
Good luck in your continued blog pimp crusade.

Thanks!

We're on a mission..


145 posted on 11/26/2016 12:19:28 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: TimPatriot
Checking same day voter registrations is another good idea to help insure election integrity.

In NH a lot of voter related data is available as a public record, particularly at individual towns.

Checking and studying voting patterns and other related information is a good spare time project for activist FReepers.

146 posted on 11/26/2016 12:49:15 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Kellis91789
Voting in person removes most of these issues. When a voter arrives they are checked off the registration list, and given 1 ballot. They vote, the ballot gets put into the ballot box, and they leave.

At the end of the day you count the ballots in the ballot box.

Then the result is announced.

A lot of the fishy business occurs when ballots are taken to government offices to be counted, or when absentee ballots are processed, or when provisional ballots are allowed.

147 posted on 11/26/2016 12:54:39 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: JerseyDvl
The owner of this site posts rules on the home page. I quote, "Do not spam us with links to your own site. No one likes spam." If he wrote it, post it and don't excerpt as this steals traffic from FreeRepublic. Pretty simple and no emotion involved about deciding what is better than tripe. It's about the rules and theft of traffic.
148 posted on 11/26/2016 2:48:49 PM PST by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: DocRock

You’re setting up a straw man and just busting people’s balls. The poster said it wasn’t his blog.


149 posted on 11/26/2016 3:02:19 PM PST by JerseyDvl (PRESIDENT TRUMP trumps hate and racism! Put some ice on it Hitlery ;-)
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To: rhett october

since HilLIARy/Soros/Jill are trying to steal the election with three states DT won,
let’s hope DT challenges all the states where HRC won (especially those with one or two big D-party-machine-controlled big cities swamping out the entire rest of their states’ votes...... like Las Vegas, etc.)


150 posted on 11/26/2016 4:07:33 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: JerseyDvl

Must have missed that, especially since his name is at the top and bottom of the article.


151 posted on 11/26/2016 4:28:33 PM PST by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: exDemMom

Your method does not prevent poll workers themselves from committing the fraud and stuffing ballot boxes. They simply sign for all the people in the register who didn’t show up, pull a ballot off the stack, fill it out and stuff it in the box.

My method of having no ballots at the polling place that were not brought in by the voter they were mailed out to prevents that ballot box stuffing.

Had you read my post you would have seen that although the ballot serial# is tied to the voter name and address when it is mailed out, there is no record kept of how that person voted on any issue. No opportunity to punish anyone for how they voted as nobody knows.


152 posted on 11/26/2016 4:52:34 PM PST by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: freeandfreezing

Having stacks of ballots sitting at the polling place is a problem. At the end of the day, if the poll workers are not really bipartisan and honest, they can start filling out ballots for all the people in the register who did not show up to vote. What is to stop a bunch of Dims from volunteering to be poll workers but say they are Reps ? If they do it often enough they may find the entire crew that was supposedly bipartisan is really all Dim. They can sign the register for those people that didn’t show up to vote, fill out a ballot, and stuff it in the box. If the only ballots that exist are the ones that were mailed out to registered voters and that those voters then bring to the polls, no ballot box stuffing can happen.

Any provisional ballots should require that the person using it be photographed holding up their ID with the photo appended to the ballot and those ballots inspected and counted separately. Two cameras, one focused on face and another focused on ID, with the photos merged combined into the digital record as well as printed with the ballot. Those ballots should be verified against the photo in the DMV database to be sure the ID is not fake. One concern is that where illegal aliens have obtained fake ID to get a job they can use that fake ID to register and vote just as easily.


153 posted on 11/26/2016 5:09:18 PM PST by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: Kellis91789

There is *no* method that is fraud proof.

With your method, what would stop someone from substituting fraudulent ballots brought in from outside and shoving them into the ballot box? Considering that there have been cases in which dozens of registered voters have been found to reside at the same vacant lot, even if the ballots themselves were legitimate, how would you know that the voters bringing them in are real?

If the poll workers are corrupt, there is nothing you can do to guarantee the election is fair. That is why you need poll workers representing different parties. You need voter ID. You need a way to validate ballots. You need a way to ensure that the ballots cast on election night are the same ballots counted.

There are so many ways to commit fraud that preventing it will take a number of different but complementary methods.


154 posted on 11/26/2016 5:18:01 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Kellis91789
At the end of the day, if the poll workers are not really bipartisan and honest, they can start filling out ballots for all the people in the register who did not show up to vote.

I suspect you haven't ever watched an election in New Hampshire.

The entire process is done in public, so the poll workers you mention have to do what they are doing in full view of the public and the various election watchers sent by the parties.

A lot of people are involved with an election in New Hampshire, including multiple elected officials. The people who hand out ballots aren't volunteers, they are individuals either appointed by political parties or people appointed by the Selectmen to serve in that office. The inspectors of elections, as they are known, must be chosen from multiple parties, and work in plain sight of many other people - both Democrats and Republicans.

Pulling off the kind of scam you propose requires a conspiracy that involves a large number of people, including the members of the public who are standing around watching.

155 posted on 11/26/2016 7:51:51 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Kellis91789
My method of having no ballots at the polling place that were not brought in by the voter they were mailed out to prevents that ballot box stuffing.

Not really. Your scheme is subject to all kinds of attacks. Here is one.

(1) Obtain the registration data - a public record, or easily obtained by survey calls, etc.

(2) Send out some crooked volunteers to steal the ballots from the mailboxes of your opponents.

(3) Just shred them, since now that person won't be able to vote unless you start giving people ballots when they say they never got theirs (which obviously defeats your original plan).

156 posted on 11/26/2016 7:55:47 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

That’s what it looks like in California, too. But that is just when the polls are open. It seems like most of those people go home by the end of the day here, and an opportunity or a smaller group to be alone with the materials after the doors are closed.

In Florida his year a temp worker at the registrars office claimed she was fired because she saw other staffers opening mail-in ballots, ripping up ones they didn’t like and filling out new ones.

In Ohio or Indiana they were staging police raids on locations where people had “somehow” acquired stacks of ballots and were filling them in with templates. The same “somehow” would no doubt have gotten those ballots into a ballot box somewhere.

The methods differ around the country, but whenever a recount of paper ballots is done, they get different totals. So somebody is having some success even with all the safeguards you mention.


157 posted on 11/27/2016 1:20:07 AM PST by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: freeandfreezing

Now you are talking about people stealing the mail, which is a felony and tough to do with so many people having mailboxes that need a key to get into. Not to mention not knowing on what day any given person is going to receive theirs in the mail. You postulate gangs of people looking in other peoples mailboxes day after day like that isn’t suspicious behavior. I did allow for provisional ballots under the proper scrutiny, and with a system to verify and nullify the original ballot that they should have received.


158 posted on 11/27/2016 1:27:28 AM PST by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: freeandfreezing

This is infuriating! And whenever Democrat supporters are approached on this it’s as though they couldn’t possibly take the idea seriously that these saints could participate in voter fraud. Laughable!


159 posted on 11/28/2016 9:31:45 AM PST by rhett october
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To: humblegunner

And yet, the website is not a blog. It’s a news website. It reports news and commentary - that’s not what a blog is. It’s interesting how people will twist things and ignore common sense when they decide that they are against someone.


160 posted on 11/28/2016 9:37:06 AM PST by rhett october
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