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Why They Hate Us
The Z Man ^ | November 5, 2016

Posted on 11/06/2016 12:59:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The other day I turned on Fox News and was presented with Britt Hume opining on the state of conservatism and where it goes after the election. I’m going from memory, but he said something like, “The Conservative Movement was about low taxes, small government, muscular foreign policy and opposition to abortion, among other things.” He then went on to point out that Trump is none of those things and that those issues are not featured in his campaign.

What struck me about what he said is there was no trace of self-awareness. No mention of the fact that the Conservative Movement lost on all but the foreign policy stuff, and that has been a disaster. The tax bite has not changed very much since the 50’s, despite endless rounds of tax cuts and tax reform. Government has grown like a weed and social issues have all moved in one direction, with amazing speed at times.

A theme here over the years has been the fact that the Conservative Movement has managed to conserve nothing. The reason they are in a crisis is the same reason a losing ball coach finds himself in jeopardy. People will tolerate only so much losing. A salesman, who cannot close deals, gets fired, even if he is the nicest guy in the world. What’s happening today is Official Conservatism™ is being fired.

There’s something else, I think. A useful tool for understanding the world is this. You can learn a great deal about someone by looking at who he hates. The same is true of groups of people. Yankee fans, for example, are indifferent to Mets fans, but they detest Red Sox fans. The reason for that is the Mets are always terrible and pose no threat to the wellbeing of Yankee fans. The Red Sox, on the other hand, are almost always a problem.

Official Conservatism™ hates Donald Trump and they hate the people voting for him. That’s been a bit of an eye-opener for people. When Hume detailed Trump’s deviationism, he was dismissive and condescending. He then had that gold plated phony George Will come in and dismiss Trump and the people supporting him as knaves and fools. The segment was ostensibly about Official Conservatism™, but it was really just an excuse for the two of them to bash Trump.

Take a look at this column from Mona Charen the other day.

If she wins (a bigger “if” today than a week ago), it will be due only to the Republican Party’s suicidal decision to nominate and support a pathological narcissist/con man — a figure utterly outside the parameters of acceptability for public office. Any public office. So as culpable as Democrats are for nominating a person who ought to have been disqualified, Republicans are even more irresponsible for risking the terrible powers of commander in chief to someone most elementary school kids would regard as emotionally unstable.

Just look at the language used here. If she were describing Hitler, would she use a different tone? More important, is it anything like the tone and language used to describe Clinton? Clearly not and that’s the tell. These are people driven purely by hatred of Trump and by extension those who support him. Hillary Clinton could probably promise to revive the Holocaust and Charen would support her, simply because she hates Trump.

The question is why do they hate Trump and his voters so intensely?

I don’t think there is a single answer, but a big part of it is purely personal. No one likes to see their mistakes and failures made public. The people at the core of NeverTrump are the same people who sold us neo-conservatism in the Bush years. What is happening now is a delayed reaction to the massive failures under George W. Bush. Trump made his mark in the primary by humiliating Jeb Bush and that was not an accident. Trump is the repudiation of Bush and the neo-cons.

There’s another bit here too. The Official Right™ has defined itself to the Left by who it hates. Purging people from their ranks has been an integral part of how modern conservatives define their thing. Naturally, when challenged, they fall back on the old ways. The trouble is all their name calling and threats have been met with jeers and laughter. They lost all of their moral authority so they can no longer simply scold the dissenters into silence.

Finally, there’s the creeping realization that their brand of conservatism is all hat and no cattle. Their moral preening and appeals to as yet undefined principles are just postures. In the end, their thing was just a jobs program for people unable to do productive work. As one of the moonbats at the post points out, it is a movement with no base. No matter what happens Tuesday, the pro-Trump people will never forget these traitors or welcome them back.

After liberation, French women guilty of “collaboration horizontale” were dragged into the street to have their heads shaved. It was punishment for betrayal of their people. The Dutch did the same, but they also sent their collaborators to work camps in New Guinea. Many were simply shot, of course. Immediately after the liberation, almost 200.000 Dutch citizens were interned in camps and prisons and put on trial. Sadly, this is not what awaits the traitors of NeverTrump, but at some level they know they will never be “us” again.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: gop; nevertrump; rinos; trump
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1 posted on 11/06/2016 12:59:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump is NOT about lower taxes?

Where has Brit Hume been?


2 posted on 11/06/2016 1:04:53 PM PST by JPJones (George Washington's Tariffs were Patriotic. Build a Wall and Build a Wall of tariffs.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Should be shorter—should read “Bush’s Fault(tm).”


3 posted on 11/06/2016 1:06:07 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

> ““The Conservative Movement was about low taxes, small government, muscular foreign policy and opposition to abortion, among other things.” He then went on to point out that Trump is none of those things and that those issues are not featured in his campaign.”

Brit Hume either needs to be put out to pasture or hung as a mouthpiece of the crime party.

Trump is for very low taxes, reduced regulation (smaller government), rebuilding America’s military, and against abortion.

Hume is a liar.


4 posted on 11/06/2016 1:06:21 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V):)
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... he [Hume] said something like, “The Conservative Movement was about low taxes, small government, muscular foreign policy and opposition to abortion, among other things.” He then went on to point out that Trump is none of those things and that those issues are not featured in his campaign.

Totally disagree. Trump has proposed a plan that reduces corporate and personal taxes, reduces the size of government by closing/redistributing agencies like the EPA and redoes our trade policies. And Trump is opposed to abortion.

What's not to like?

Go Trump/Pence!

5 posted on 11/06/2016 1:12:51 PM PST by upchuck (Trump will be great because heÂ’s actually run something other than his mouth!)
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To: JPJones

“Where has Brit Hume been?”

the mental asylum


6 posted on 11/06/2016 1:12:54 PM PST by max americana (fired every liberal in our company at every election cycle..and laughed at their faces (true story))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Same reason Cain hated Abel and Ishmael hated Isaac. Those of the flesh and the law always persecute and war against those of the spirit and grace (Gal 4:29).


7 posted on 11/06/2016 1:15:26 PM PST by Jim W N
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If a person is about Biblical timings, they’d say it’s the rise of the antichrist.. that power that is running everything in that circle.. the fact they can get people and governments to bow to that power... that we see there is nothing left to stop that power.. they all bow to the clintons or soros or whomever is at the root of this... the control is evident. Hume, the media and the likes.. believe they will be in fine shape with that powerful crowd.. and want to be a part of it.. they detest the working class and those who are not considered bright enough.. left enough.. to be with them in that elite group. They detest the Christians and the conservative movement.. the constitution and anything that the founding fathers formed to make us the United States. They also want to take our guns so they can force us to obey.. imagine how far hitler would have gotten if the Jews had all been armed for protection.

I can explain it no other way.. it’s the satanists against the anyone who stands in their way.. and Hume likes to do it with his self righteous manner.. all of Fox news are converts to the ways of the media.

If Trump wins this... we are going to see the swamp drained, and they’d rather live in the mud and slime of the left than to be great again!


8 posted on 11/06/2016 1:16:10 PM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who really cares why they “hate” us. We hate them. They lie like the democrats. They vote with the democrats. They stab us and our candidates in the back continuously (remember Mississippi). They want to weaken our voices in an attempt to conform our nation to the world. These globalists hate our way of life and work with our enemies while smiling in our face. They care only about their crony friends, not the US citizens who pay the bills.

They hate us? So what. As long as there are more of us than them, they need to start listening to us. Or they can go join the democrats and their satanic minded leaders.


9 posted on 11/06/2016 1:16:29 PM PST by Waryone (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Z Man’s great... have you been posting him for a while and I’ve just missed it?


10 posted on 11/06/2016 1:16:50 PM PST by GOPJ (Hillary's next book: "How to Make $100 Million as a Public Servant" - - freeperJs aoshua c)
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He left out illegal immigration and Islamic refugees and globalized borders ..that's the top if the list for Conservatives, And its not the other issues as much no matter how hard they they try to shove the top ones that people really care about under the rug
11 posted on 11/06/2016 1:18:22 PM PST by seastay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Democrats are the enemies of humanity and human civilization.

But RINOs are worse - they’re traitors.


12 posted on 11/06/2016 1:19:34 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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but at some level they know they will never be “us” again.

Nor will we be the them, and they will miss us more than we miss them. They have been useless anyway.

13 posted on 11/06/2016 1:20:47 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is happening is that Trump is strongly against exporting America’s industrial base.

Strongly.

He is the first guy, in either party, to stand up for America.

This has caused a massive resurgence in America among the working people, who all agree with him.

This has also caused the owner class, to notice him. They have been selling off and exporting every single American business for so many years, they stopped thinking about what they were doing.

They were selling out our very own nation. Both parties have been selling out our own nation.

For the entire last generation.

Now. Finally. Someone is standing up for Americans.

Tuesday, we will find out, whether enough people are fed up to turn the mess around.

We will see.


14 posted on 11/06/2016 1:21:04 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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“... why do they hate Trump... “

I don’t think it’s entirely hate. Instead they are extremely envious. They covet the power that Trump commands. They can’t stand the fact that Trump can excite such a large segment of the country.

Most of these NeverTrumpers are themselves in the business of trying to persuade people. In this election, they are getting destroyed by Trump. Their egos have turned to mush. It is this rejection that is driving them crazy.


15 posted on 11/06/2016 1:22:30 PM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: 1rudeboy
Should be shorter—should read “Bush’s Fault(tm).”

Cough cough: coffee sip

16 posted on 11/06/2016 1:23:20 PM PST by IWontSubmit
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To: GOPJ

Off and on.


17 posted on 11/06/2016 1:25:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not a bad article. Until you get to the last paragraph. Maybe the author’s rhetorical excesses are one reason why “they” hate people like him.


18 posted on 11/06/2016 1:27:59 PM PST by x
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The simple truth that is being missed by the ‘party’ is, most likely this is the last chance to see a Republican president. The Dem voters don't seem to be bothered with the corruption in Washington as much as they are concentrated on bragging they are the winners. The Dems will continue to stack Rep states and districts with illegals who are fast-tracked to citizenship and coached to vote Dem. The corrupt unions will continue to infiltrate every government agency. The special interests will continue to tear the country apart. We've seen this gerrymandering, and we've seen the psychological and physical violence for ourselves this election.

The only way to stop what is being engineered to be a permanent transfer of power is to vote Trump and preserve the party that will get a handle on immigration and corruption. We embrace the label, "The Deplorables" but to others it's real (including "intervention" Hillary, who voiced as much just the other day in response to a heckler). So, either vote Trump, or accept the reality of punitive treatment by the Democrats for the rest of your subjugated lives. It's a simple choice. Get on the Trump Train.

19 posted on 11/06/2016 1:28:27 PM PST by blueplum ((March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?))
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To: Jim 0216

[ Same reason Cain hated Abel and Ishmael hated Isaac. Those of the flesh and the law always persecute and war against those of the spirit and grace (Gal 4:29). ]

The evil have bottomless envy against the righteous.


20 posted on 11/06/2016 1:30:06 PM PST by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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