Oprah's Forced Disconnection

my crazy brain ^ | 10-22-16 | philman_36

[tbpiper]

That's a steaming pile of male bovine fecal matter. And you can speak for yourself, don't speak for me in your "all".

All sin comes from Adam's sin, that is, disobeying God so that he could be like God. Anytime you prefer your will over God's will you are acting as your on god, your own highest authority, so to speak. Lest you think this too is a steaming pile of BS let me refer you to another source:

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. (emphasis added)

[TigersEye]

0prah is demagoguing and using straw man arguments.

I don’t suppose my county Sheriff is going to personally come to my house either but I wouldn’t vote for a guy who has led a life of crime for that office either. Nor would I vote for someone who opposes everything I believe in regarding politics, law and society even if they weren’t criminals. Hillary is both.

[philman_36]

All sin comes from Adam's sin, that is, disobeying God so that he could be like God.
You said earlier that people wanted to be God, not be like God. Play fair and don't try to change the goalposts now as if you didn't say it. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.. Genesis 3:4-5

Anytime you prefer your will over God's will you are acting as your on (sic) god, your own highest authority, so to speak.

No, you're acting as a sinful human in that you know good and evil and yet you still choose to do evil, not that you're your own god. "Ye shall be as gods" was the second lie as Adam and Eve knew good and evil before they ate of the fruit. The first was that they would not die.

But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. Genesis 3:3
They both knew it was wrong/evil, yet they did it anyway because of lies they were told. They believed the lies. We should all learn from the mistakes of others.

And if you had actually read my original reply to you then you should have seen I referenced Romans 3:23

Personally, I simply want to be loved by God even though I know I'm not worthy of that love (For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God...).

I simply didn't put the location from whence it came.

[philman_36]

0prah is demagoguing and using straw man arguments.

Indeed.
The rest of your reply was a nice illustration as well.

[philman_36]

Think of it this way...

You raise your child hoping they never lie yet you're heartbroken the first time that child does lie to you. You know, despite your best efforts that sooner or later it's going to happen.
Did you eat the cookie after I told you not to?
No, says the child with chocolate and crumbs on their lips.

Lucifer's role didn't help, but IMO God knew that sooner or later Lucifer would corrupt Adam and Eve.