Christopher Columbus, Vs. “the noble red man.”

Canada Free Press ^ | 10/03/16 | Jeffrey A. Friedberg

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

If Columbus had not discovered the New World in 1492, Pedro Álvares Cabral would have on April 22, 1500.

Discovery was inevitable.

[MrEdd]

Couldn’t have happened that way.

The Vikings scouted their conquests with traders, who would later become pillagers. When the scouts get killed and looted the Viking modus operandi is circumvented.

[MrEdd]

The European record of slavery is not “relatively recent.”
Slavery has never died out in the Middle East, India, or Africa.

Make up something else.

[bgill]

[aquila48]

If you are able to do something means you can do that something successfully.

[Roman_War_Criminal]

Yep!

If you’ve ever visited Hawaii, you’ll hear to “native” groans loud and clear about “colonization”.

Had the English/Americans not subjugated them, the Russians, Japanese, or Chinese inevitably would.

[Luigi Vasellini]

bttt

[The Great RJ]

Native Americans have a sordid past too and sometimes engaged in genocidal warfare against competing tribes. For example the Lakota obtained horses and moved from their traditional homelands in Minnesota to the Dakotas completely wiping out the Arikara. Early French explorers in the region named the tribe Sioux meaning cut throats.

[elcid1970]

“So then why do we celebrate Columbus Day in the first place?”

Cuz’ Italians want a day of our own. The blacks got theirs, the Irish got theirs, so we want ours.

You gotta problem wid’ dat?

[dfwgator]

What about us Polack’s.......We want Pulaski Day.

[minnesota_bound]

I wish we still had slavery. Full employment for everyone! : )
I would be a slave master myself.....

[hanamizu]

If Columbus had not discovered the New World in 1492, Pedro Álvares Cabral would have on April 22, 1500.

Discovery was inevitable.

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And so was the destruction of the Indian population and culture. I cannot imagine a different outcome—a metal-using culture capable of trans-Atlantic voyages encountering stone-age cultures. In Mexico/Peru the disparity was less because of the Indian civilizations, (yet in spite of that advantage or perhaps because of it, they were conquered in short order) but in North America the uncivilized Indian really didn’t have a chance. Forget disease, economics doomed them. How many acres would it take to feed a European farming family vs Indian hunter-gatherers? The only places the Indians could hang on to were environments to hostile to be desirable to the European settlers.

[elcid1970]

I’d be cool with Jan Sobieski Day. Need another one like him.

[Sivad]

I think with socialism on the horizon we
are all at risk of being the nail rather
than the hammer.

[Sivad]

Who pissed in your Cherios?

Do you know what the word ‘relatively’ means?
Did you not notice that I expressed that forms
of slavery continue?

[safeasthebanks]

For what it’s worth, there IS a Pulaski highway in Baltimore...

[IronJack]

By “here,” I meant the New World.

[IronJack]

And they didn’t look like Disney’s Pocahantas.

[MrEdd]

Relative to ongoing and still happening right now, the European record on slavery is ancient history.

When someone corrects your assertion don’t throw a temper tantrum.

You won’t win arguments that way.

[al_c]

By “here,” I meant the New World.

Of course.