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Christopher Columbus, Vs. “the noble red man.”
Canada Free Press ^ | 10/03/16 | Jeffrey A. Friedberg

Posted on 10/04/2016 7:29:47 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony

False matrix of a false reality that the Rulers use to break down, beat down, and make “guilty” my (our) beloved American traditions and history, which they seek to warp, or destroy utterly

“…Numerous communities have decided to commemorate the lives of indigenous Americans lost to genocide and colonial oppression instead of Christopher Columbus’s journey across the Atlantic.” Breitbart.com

Know what? I’m sick of hearing this garbage about Christopher Columbus, Vs. “the noble red man.”

Charges of Columbus’ anti-Native-American/Indigenous-People/First-Americans, Racism (whatever the hell THAT means anymore), genocide, and all that other happy horse manure seem to have really worn out both me and general human reason on the topic.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: cannibals; christophercolumbus; columbusday; constantwars; headhunters; indiansnatives; nobleredman
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1 posted on 10/04/2016 7:29:47 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony
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To: Sean_Anthony

History is the story of subjugation.

The Assyrians
The Persians
The Macedonians
The Romans
The Germanic Tribes
The Muslims
The people from the Steppes of Asia
The Europeans

The “Native Americans” — who invaded this hemisphere from Asia — should shut the hell up.


2 posted on 10/04/2016 7:33:24 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: Sean_Anthony

And then there’s the fact that Columbus never set foot in what is now the USA. He got as close as the Caribbean ... but that’s it.


3 posted on 10/04/2016 7:33:31 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Sean_Anthony

They were called savages for a reason.


4 posted on 10/04/2016 7:37:52 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Sean_Anthony

I have a completely different view of history. I believe that the white man and the red man came out of the same tribe. Geneticists tell us that about 100,000 years ago that a large migration out of Africa split around Israel and went west to Europe and east to Asia and eventually America via the land bridge. So we all have a racial connection.

My other point involves humanity itself. Whichever group has the technological or demographic advantage will subjugate the other group usually through murder, plunder and slavery. It’s been a constant throughout history among all racial groups.


5 posted on 10/04/2016 7:38:38 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: al_c

Plus the fact that long before Columbus got here, the Indians were slaughtering and dismembering each other.

“Dances With Wolves” is fiction, not a documentary.


6 posted on 10/04/2016 7:44:21 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Crucial

You only own that which you are willing and able to defend by whatever means at your disposal.

That is the reality of life.


7 posted on 10/04/2016 7:51:05 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: IronJack
Plus the fact that long before Columbus got here, the Indians were slaughtering and dismembering each other.

True ... except that Columbus never got here.

“Dances With Wolves” is fiction, not a documentary.

Not sure what your point is here, but okay.

8 posted on 10/04/2016 7:51:22 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Sean_Anthony

Christopher who?

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/ist/?next=/history/the-vikings-a-memorable-visit-to-america-98090935/



9 posted on 10/04/2016 7:53:10 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: al_c
True ... except that Columbus never got here.

So then why do we celebrate Columbus Day in the first place? At least Leif Erikson made it here.

10 posted on 10/04/2016 7:53:15 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: IronJack

Right and if the Indians probably did enslave people from other Indian tribes particuarly women. They just didn’t really have the need to enslave in mass numbers as they didn’t need to feed large centralized populations.


11 posted on 10/04/2016 7:55:10 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: IronJack

You mean the Plains Indians didn’t have shampoo and cream rinse?


12 posted on 10/04/2016 7:57:16 AM PDT by kallisti (fall mountains, just don't fall on me (JH))
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To: dfwgator

We can only document Leif made it to southeast coast of Newfoundland with certainty I think

Point Rosee or something like that

Chris made it to San Salvador Bahamas which is a lot closer to our America

Just race across the Bahama bank 340 miles to myamuh

Newfie is twice as far

Plus Chris set off settlements that never ended

The Immigrant Song did not

Man imagine how it woulda gone got the Injuns had the Vikings settled in the waves like the Western Europeans did

Even the Comanches and Huron would been quaking


13 posted on 10/04/2016 8:03:26 AM PDT by wardaddy (rope)
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To: dfwgator
So then why do we celebrate Columbus Day in the first place?

I've often wondered that. I'm sure it has something to do with his exploration voyage opening up the curiosity of the new land leading to further ocean crossings.

At least Leif Erikson made it here.

Yeah, Canada is more mainland than the Caribbean islands. Do our northern neighbors celebrate his discovery?

14 posted on 10/04/2016 8:04:55 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: dfwgator

Leif Erikson Day is October 9th.

Erikson didn’t discover the US either. The closest he got was Newfoundland.


15 posted on 10/04/2016 8:06:42 AM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: aquila48

... and can successfully defend...

you may be willing and able and still end up without ownership.


16 posted on 10/04/2016 8:07:57 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Winter is coming)
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To: bgill
Leif Erikson Day is October 9th.

Hinga Dinga Durgen!

17 posted on 10/04/2016 8:08:25 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: aquila48

Conan ... what is best in life?


18 posted on 10/04/2016 8:09:24 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“History is the story of subjugation “

Total agreement

The way I see it is that every person who walks
the earth is descended from both slaves and
slave masters. Since the European record as
slave masters is relatively recent there is
a vast amount of documentation compared to other
slave holding cultures, therefore, it is
the Euros and Euro-Americans who receive the
attention and blame while the preceeding groups
go blameless. In North America you can bet the
native populations did more than just dabble in
slavery. And, under Islam, forms of slavery
continue today.

I can think of very few posts that I have done
agreed with more than yours. Thanks.


19 posted on 10/04/2016 8:13:56 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf.)
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To: Sean_Anthony

Those POOR little Indians! Boo-hoo!

About thirty years ago OETA out of Oklahoma had on a program IMAGES OF INDIANS in which one guest claimed Indians never scalped or tortured anyone! All I can say to that is BUNK!

http://phys.org/news/2015-10-mexican-site-yields-sacrifice-spaniards.html

http://ancientstandard.com/2007/07/17/csi-new-mexico-%E2%80%93-possible-genocide-ca-1275-ad/

https://anthropology.net/2007/07/16/parallel-life-and-death-1275-ad-massacred-gallina-and-vanishing-anasazi/

http://westerndigs.org/infamous-mass-grave-of-young-women-in-ancient-city-of-cahokia-also-holds-men-study/

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2885-mass-human-sacrifice-unearthed-in-peru/

http://www.dickshovel.com/scalp.html

Books to read...
THE MASSACRES OF THE MOUNTAINS by Dunn, published at the time they happened, when witnesses were still alive.
My Life on the Plains by Custer
On the Border with Crook by Burke
The Indian Wars of 1864 by Ware

If you get a chance read any book written by some of the old Mountain Men who lived with the Indians. One of them, upon observing the attack by his tribe on another commented that the Indian philosophy was to “KILL EVERY LIVING THING!” in the tribe attacked.
When Chivington attacked the tribe at Sand Creek it sent shock waves through all the tribes clear down into Comanchera because they realized the White Man could fight just as vicious as the Indians had always been doing.

And remember thirty years ago when the “Nobel Red Man” was found to practice intense Indian cannibalism in the South West! The Libs refused to believe it!


20 posted on 10/04/2016 8:15:02 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (HANDGUNS; You don’t need it until you need it. And when you need it you NEED IT!”)
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