Posted on 09/11/2016 7:20:32 PM PDT by LS
There is a great deal of consternation among both Democrats and Republicans tonight over the health condition of Cankles. There are (unverified) reports that the DNC is holding an "emergency meeting" to look into replacing her if her health deteriorates.
Many Republicans fear a bait and switch with Joe Bite-me, thinking he would be a tougher candidate. I don't think so, but assume the Dems WANT to do this in the first place. There are many, many reasons why it's just impossible and/or so suicidally impractical they will drop the idea.
1) Early voting has already begun in 26 states + DC and and absentee ballots are mailed in almost all. Many have already been returned. Hillary's was the only D name in the presidential slot. Anyone voting for Cankles, and NOT wanting to vote for Tim Kaine or Bite-me would have a lawsuit---and these could be in the thousands. (We'll follow the legality a little later).
2) In ALL the states, ballots are already printed. Only Hillary is on there. It would be possible to recall all these ballots and reprint them, but imagine the chaos. If Palm Beach can't design a basic ballot, how well do you think all 50 states would do at yanking ALL their ballots and replacing them? Even a margin of error of 10% would elect Trump easily (assuming he won't already be elected, which I will assume just for the purposes of argument).
3) As a matter of state law, it is too late for anyone NEW to get ON the state ballots in many states. Not all of these are D states, so many would NOT agree to allow any new name on the ballot.
4) Even allowing for numbskull neverTrumper governors like John Kay-sick, most GOP governors would fight the process tooth and nail if only because in most states the GOP candidates are ahead, especially in the senate races in FL, NC, PA, and elsewhere. In other words, Richard Burr, Pat Toomey, Marco Rubio, and scores of other Republicans who are safely LEADING would not want to risk a "re-vote" and start all over again.
5) Cankles will not be tossed out like waste paper. She would fight, and people might die. There is no way she will just hand this over to Kaine or Bite-me.
6) Practically speaking, I think the Bernie people would tolerate Kaine being substituted, but no one else. After all, he was "legitimately" nominated. But Bite-me over Bernie? No way. Even if this were pulled off, I'd wager that a solid 50% of the Bernie voters (or 25% of the total D vote) would vote for Stein or stay home.
7) But there is no way to put Bernie on either, for reasons listed above. Thus, only Kaine is an even remotely possible choice to replace Cankles.
8) Someone mentioned the Mel Carnahan situation, where he won election even though he died earlier. But he didn't have some other name substituted on the ballot for his, and the state Ds agreed his widow would take his place. A Carnahan for a Carnahan. The matter of "name confusion" did not exist. Herding people to the polls to vote (or worse, early vote) once is tough enough and we already knew that this year's turnout for the Ds would be well below 2012. But twice? Not gonna happen.
9) All this assumes there is no pushback. But Donald Trump is no Minion Romney. Trump would battle this at every level---legally, psychologically, and in terms of propaganda.
10) Ultimately, I predict that two things would happen: practically speaking, whoever might replace Cankles would suffer from the split vote so massively that he would only get, possibly, 35% of the vote, and maybe not even 80% of the D voters. Second, legally, there would be so many lawsuits immediately that it would be expedited to the USSC . . . which is 50/50. I don't think even the traitorous justices on our side would go along with a bait and switch. They would do the safe thing: rely on precedent.
And the precedent? Bush v. Gore, one man, one vote. Wouldn't it be ironic if George W. Bush, who wouldn't endorse Trump, became his unwilling ally and provided the margin of victory in 2016?
The whole purpose is to keep the power.
I suspect there are death/disability clauses in the law just as there are in the constitution. I haven’t seen the laws of the various states, and I’m no lawyer, but it just makes sense to me that they would not be that short-sighted.
We have a winner.
I think you’re wrong as hell. We have pretty good studies that even the so-called early voting fraud wasn’t a fraud. It just moved voters from November to September/October.
The quintessential Chinese curse: May you live in interesting times,
Just checking to make sure I can re-post elsewhere with attribution?
Sure. I don’t do blogs. If I really need to get something out, I post it here, then tweet, not FB first.
I am wondering what would happen if Hitlery died, either before, or after, the election.
Also wondering, elsewhere I read a quote (from where...???, maybe I can find) that if a candidate should die before election but after being nominated, the DNC members would vote among themselves to elect a new candidate. Of course that doesn’t sound possible, after reading LS’s article.
Got it now, no need for you to reply again.
:-) thank you!
IMHO the reason she is running is to avoid prison. Her and plenty of others...
And I am hoping and considering, that he may do exactly that. At least 2 rallies (or could be three) that I listened to - and I haven’t listened to even a third of them - he said specifically that if elected he will go after Bergdahl, Hitlery - AND OTHERS.....
“INTERESTING” maybe they should get an “intern” to work on this”
I think he will. So do they, and that’s good reason for them to be desperate—EXTREMELY DESPERATE—DANGEROUSLY DESPERATE! They are cornered!
One thing I was thinking today, Cankles is only as powerful as people think she is. If it looks as though she won’t win and/or won’t “make it” in some way, donors won’t give her $ for campaign, or the “Foundation”, and thus - total loss of power. It’s not as though the Clintons are the richest people in the world. They’re pretty small potatoes in the world of the vastly wealthy.
Three big factors working together will keep her on the ballot for November 8th.
1. Time is of the essence to change candidates as the longer this drags on then the more complicated it becomes.
2. This is not ONE election but 51 elections with each of their own set of rules/procedures. It doesn’t become ONE election unless nobody gets 270 or more Electoral votes. And then it becomes like 192 years ago and a matter for the 50 collection of state delegations to the US House to decide regarding who gets elected to the office of President.
3. If the Dem’s decide to replace Hillary then it’ll only go smoothly if Hillary is fully on-board with it. Anyone who watched the Lewinsky scandal, the 2008 Obama-Clinton battle over Florida, and the Wikileaks release of DNC emails ought to know that Hillary is not likely to roll over.
If you don’t want any Democrat to be President 2017-2021 then the best thing to do (at least the next 4 weeks) is to pray hard for Hillary to have a good month of health and then to go back to “normal”.
Have it your way. I’m just saying that the ballots in this state are clear that the voter in a Presidential election is casting a vote for electors, not for the candidate. How the courts might rule is quite another matter, true, but irrelevant to my post.
Personally, I don’t think that a case could be won where the basis is so easily proven false, simply by reading the ballot, and any such ruling would be overturned at once. Still, my tinfoil hat was severely damaged in a recent hailstorm, and I haven’t fashioned another yet.
Guess you never heard of Palm Beach? The ballot was very clear-—but the courts ruled it wasn’t.
Exactly. No one really has thought about the magnitude of pulling something like this, let alone the emotional/voter turnout implications. It’s “soooo-eeee-cide.”
What the hell is your problem? I have said, repeatedly, that the Arizona ballot specifies the one votes for Presidential electors. This is true. I’m not interested in a bunch of crap about what I have or haven’t heard of, so GFY.
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