Posted on 05/19/2016 4:25:59 AM PDT by HomerBohn
Vicente Fox head of Coca-Cola Mexico
Vicente Fox (twitter) is two important things: the former President of Mexico, and the former head of all Coca Cola operations in Mexico.
Over the last few months, he’s made several statements about Trump and immigration:
“I’m not going to pay for that fucking wall.”
“He [Trump] is the hated gringo because he’s attacking all of us, he’s offending all of us, I mean imagine – that could take us to a war – not to a trade war…Don’t play around with us. We can jump walls. We can swim rivers. And we can defend ourselves.”
Regardless of what you think about immigration or Trump, there are a few points to remember about Vicente Fox and the history of Mexico.
First, Fox, on his mother’s side, is Spanish. As in: she comes from Spain.
From biography.yourdictionary.com: “He [Fox] was born July 2, 1942 in Mexico City but was raised on a communal farm in the state of Guanajuato near Leon. His father was a rancher of Irish descent and his mother came from Spain.” (Oh, wikipedia update: “The family was unaware of its German origins and they believed the Fox family [on Vicente’s father’s side] had their origins in Ireland until it was discovered otherwise later in Fox’s life.”)
What difference does that make? The bottom-line argument for UNLIMITED Mexican immigration is based on history: namely, the Mexican-American War of 1846-48, and the peace treaty that surrendered Mexican California, plus territories east of California, to the United States—and solidified the US hold on Texas.
So the current immigration flood has the goal of “taking back what rightfully belongs to Mexico.”
Except for one other historical fact: starting in 1519, Mexico no longer belonged to the native Aztec population. It was grabbed by force. The Spanish conquistadors won a war and overthrew the Aztec empire.
So if you want to argue history, “native Mexicans” aren’t “winning back Mexico for themselves.” If immigration means winning, it’s on behalf of the men who took control of Mexico: Spanish conquerors.
Again, on his mother’s side, Vicente Fox is Spanish. He isn’t a “native Mexican.” Not even close.
Indeed, native Mexicans have been buried at the bottom of the political structure in their own country for five centuries.
If you want to say that unlimited immigration will somehow win back Mexico’s lost territories in the US, be accurate. Immigration will win back the territories for the descendants of the Spanish conquistadors.
But Vicente Fox has other matters to explain as well, and they have to do with the effects of the Coca Cola Company on native Mexicans. Remember, he was, for a time, the head of all Coke operations in Mexico. Here, from a stunning article at mexicolapchs.blogspot.com (“Coca-Cola’s Exploitation of Mexico,” 5/8/2011), is another piece of history, this one more recent:
“While having a tight grip on the native people, Coca-Cola managed to exploit Mexican land and its natural resources. ‘Coke is also widely produced in Mexico, an arrangement that is threatening the country’s water supplies and undercutting indigenous control of natural resources. It takes three cups of water to make one cup of Coke’… As Coca-Cola is using up Mexico’s water supply to produce Coke, they are limiting water for the native people, forcing them to consume more Coke. Health issues like diabetes and obesity began to worsen as more Coke was consumed because of the sugar and caffeine intake.”
“Without natural resources to provide a healthy diet, the Mexican people resorted to drinking only Coke which caused a rise in diabetes and obesity. Due to Coca-Cola’s economic venture, Mexico must cope with its depleted resources, disintegrating government, and mistreatment of the people. If Coca-Cola continues their profit making schemes, the people of Mexico will have no control over their own government and land. Their water supply will ultimately be destroyed and the health of the people will plummet.”
If Vicente Fox is arguing on behalf of “true Mexicans,” he should look to his own past, and the grotesque effects his company has had on that population.
If you opened up the major media to authentic original Mexicans, with no Spanish descendants of the conquistadors on board, the first thing the native Mexicans would begin talking about is the 500-year suppression of their rights and lives in their own land, right down to the present day. They wouldn’t be talking about immigration to the United States.
The native Mexicans would have very interesting things to say. Their statements would cut to the bone of Mexican history, the real history. Not the laid-on Spanish history.
And if justice were the objective, it would begin right there.
It definitely doesn’t begin with anything Vicente Fox has to say.
The argument for unlimited immigration, based on history, is spurious from the get-go. And if you want to go back to the native Aztecs, even there you’re talking about people who took over large territories and populations by conquest.
Who the Aztecs’ native Mexican victims were, at that time, I’ll leave for scholars and historians to sort out. Whoever they were, if you can find them in Mexico today, they have zero political or economic power. They’re at the bottom, where they’ve lived for a long, long, long time. And their need starts with what the leaders in Mexico (not the US) have been doing to them:
Burying them.
You just might find a few descendants of original Mexicans growing corn in their native land. That’s possible. And if you did, you’d immediately run into the effects that NAFTA, the 1994 Globalist treaty, has had on them. It put 1.5 million of them into bankruptcy, because NAFTA permitted the US to export cheap corn to Mexico. That’s why many of those farmers have been crossing the border and coming up into the US.
Yes, NAFTA, the treaty that Vicente Fox has called “a miracle,” and a “total success.”
The man can tap dance. I’ll give him that.
Coda: In case you think giant tracts of land in California, with their sprawling estate villas, were once owned by original Mexicans, from whom Imperialist Yankees stole those properties in the settlement of the Mexican-American War, think again. There was a time (19th and early 20th century) when remaining wealthy Mexican families in California were giving each other islands off the coast, as wedding presents for their sons and daughters—but these were really Spanish landowners. They were the descendants of 1519 Hernan Cortes, Juan Diaz, Andres de Tapia, Garcia del Pilar, Francisco de Aguilar, Pedro Alvarado, and their merry band of marauders who stole central Mexico, spread their influence, and kept the native population under their rule, deep under their rule.
I once lived on Alvarado Street in Los Angeles. Only decades later did I realize this name was no holdover from, or recognition of, Mexico. It was apparently a reference to Juan Bautista Alvarado, Governor of Alta California (1836-42). It pointed to “Spanish Mexico.” As in: Spain.
The people who want unlimited immigration from Mexico to the US should keep that in mind. Arguing from history brings up some unpleasant truths.
According to ancestry.com, the most common surnames (2013) are Garcia, Fernandez, Gonzales, Rodriguez, Lopez, Martinez, Sanchez, Perez, Martin, Gomez—these are the most common names in…
Spain.
That tells you something about who has really been running Mexico since the early 16th century.
It isn’t the native Mexicans.
They speak the language of their conquerors.
Fox is a house Mexican. I don’t think he cares much for the field Mexicans. That’s how my legal immigrant Mexican coworkers (electrical engineers) told me.
And we can pull triggers.
BRING IT ON!
I have had very credible sources tell me that their government was directly involved in the drug trade with Fox’s approval. The guy is a major a-hole
Colonials such as Mr. Fox are actively engaging in ethnic cleansing purging Mexico of her aboriginal inhabitants.
(I also believe they’re helping other central American nations with the same process by facilitating entry of their indigenous people into the US)
They’re making Mexico and Central America look more like mother Spain.
Bump for reference to one of the great deceivers.
The best way to shut down a Hispanic Liberal that jumps all over “White oppression and Indians” in comment threads is to ask them if they’ve done DNA testing to see if they have any Aztec(Mexico) or other indigenous heritage(depending on their country of origin).
Because if not, they should be ashamed of themselves and their conquistador ancestors.
Throw it back at them. They should pay reparations, etc.
“The True History of the Southwest, 101”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1611565/posts
The amount of historical idiocy and fallacies surrounding the history of the Southwest is staggering, chief among them the “Aztlan” fairy tales. What’s the truth? How did the Spanish Europeans conquer the Southwest? The “conquistadores” (that means “conquerors”) did it with the lance, and the lash.
For example, in 1541 Coronado entered present-day New Mexico (which included present Arizona during the Spanish era) searching for the “lost cities of gold.” One of his first actions upon meeting the natives was to burn 100s of them alive in their dwellings, for not handing over suspected horse thieves. That is how Spain conquered the natives of the present US Southwest—not with hugs and kisses! It was certainly no love-fest between long-lost brown-skinned soul- mates, as it is often portrayed today by the delusional Aztlaners today, who spin the “new bronze race of Mestizos” toro-mierda.
By 1821, Mexico City was strong enough to overthrow even more decrepit and ineffectual Spanish rule. However, the distant provinces of the current US Southwest were far beyond the reach of the authority of independent but strife- torn Mexico. These distant northern provinces received neither military protection nor needed levels of trade from the south. Under Spanish rule, trade with the USA was forbidden, but at least Spain provided trade and Army protection from hostile Indians. Under Mexican neglect, the Southwest received neither trade nor protection from Mexico City.
For example, Comanches and Apaches ran rampant in the 1830s in this new power vacuum created by Mexican neglect, burning scores of major ranches that had been around for hundreds of years and massacring their inhabitants. Mexico City could neither defend nor keep the allegiance of its nominal citizens in these regions. Nor did it provide needed levels of trade to sustain the prior Spanish-era standard of living. Mexican influence atrophied, withered and died at the same time that American pathfinders were opening up new routes into the region.
Increasingly, a growing America was making inroads into the Southwest, via ships into California, and via gigantic wagon trains of trade goods over the Santa Fe Trail from St. Louis. The standard of living of the SPANISH in these states subsequently increased enormously, which is why they did not support Mexico City in the 1846-48 war. In fact, the Spanish-speaking inhabitants of the Southwest NEVER considered themselves “Mexicans” at all, ever. They went, in their own eyes, from SPANISH directly to AMERICAN.
So how long did Mexico City have even nominal control over the Southwest? For only 25 years, during which they had no effective control, and the area slipped backwards until the arrival of the Americans. The SPANISH inhabitants of the Southwest NEVER transferred their loyalty to Mexico City, because all the received from the chaotic Mexican government was misrule, neglect, and unchecked Indian raids.
Since then, how long has the area been under firm American control? For 150 continuous years, during which time the former Spanish inhabitants of the region, now American citizens, have prospered beyond the wildest dreams of the Mexicans stuck in Mexico. To compare the infrastructure, roads, schools, hospitals etc of the two regions is to understand the truth. The Mexican government has been mired in graft, corruption, nepotism and chaos from the very start. The ordinary Mexican peons have been trampled and abused, while only the super-rich elites have thrived. This is why millions of Mexicans want to escape from Mexico today, to enjoy the benefits of living in America they can never obtain in Mexico.
And now, we are supposed to let any Mexican from Chiapas, Michoacan or Yucatan march into the American Southwest, and make some “historical claim” of a right to live there? From where does this absurd idea spring?
At what point in history did Indians and Mestizos from Zacatecas or Durango stake a claim on the American Southwest? Neither they nor their ancestors ever lived for one single day in the American Southwest. The Spanish living in the Southwest in 1846 stayed there, and became Americans by the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. There were no Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest who were marched to the border and driven into Mexico. It didn’t happen. The SPANISH in the Southwest welcomed American citizenship, which brought stability, protection from Indian raids, and a vast increase in their standard of living with the increase in trade.
In sum, NO current inhabitants of Mexico have ANY claim on even one single inch of the Southwest!
NOT ONE citizen of Mexico is sneaking into the USA to reclaim property they were deprived of, NOT ONE.
They are criminal invaders and colonizers, pure and simple.
It’s time Americans learned the true history, as a counter to the prevalent Aztlaner fairy tales.
Here’s the real knee-slapper about what you just posted.
Almost every single “Mexican”, no matter how much they look like the natives, will claim some form of “Spanish Ancestry”. Let’s say a “grandmother” from Spain.
It’s laughable to be honest, because these are full blooded Indians telling you this.
I lived in Mexico for 10 years and because I am white and my mom is Spanish, folks would tell me about their so-called Spanish “heritage”.
Au contraire, mon ami.
(A little French lingo there to demonstrate my fondness for little froggies.)
Those nations will never look like Spain. The Mexicans kicked Spain and all the great institutions they founded that helped the native peoples out of Mexico.
The Spanish have been gone for a very long time and in their place you have the 'establishment' that has cruelly ruled Mexico ever since. It has become a paradise for all the ruling class.
However, it has also become a cesspool of crime and evil that eventually will smother and kill the rulers.
Kind of like Hitler’s failed attempt to rid Germany of Jews and other “undesirables”?
Good luck with that, because recently the flow of “migrants” into Central America has been of the Muslim and Caribbean variety (Jamaica/Haiti/DR). Maybe it’ll be a continuous revolving door?
all Mexicans by birth have the legal right to enforce immigration law.
if you are a 40 year old Guatemalan transiting Mexico and are reasonably suspected of being illegal by a child, then that child can legally restrain and arrest you.
it is a felony for any non Mexican to be physically present at any political function like a demonstration or March.
Remember Vicente, Trump knows every banker on earth....he can easily find where federales are hoarding US tax dollars for themselves.
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Taxpayers, ever hear of the MERIDA INITIATIVE? I didn/t think so.
WIKI-—OUTDATED NARRATIVE With the Merida Initiative set to expire on September 30, 2010, the U.S. State Department (under SoS Hillary) has proposed a major renewal and expansion of the program. If approved, starting in 2011, $310 million would be granted to Mexico, another $100 million for the Central American Regional Security Initiative (CARSI), and $79 million for the Caribbean Basin Security Initiative (CBSI).[28]
The U.S. Congress has now authorized $1.6 billion for the three-year initiative (2007–2010). The U.S. Congress approved $465 million in the first year, which includes $400 million for Mexico and $65 million for Central America, the Dominican Republic, and Haiti. For the second year, Congress approved $300 million for Mexico and $110 million for Central America, the Dominican Republic and Haiti. A FY09 supplemental appropriation is providing an additional $420 million for Mexico; and $450 million for Mexico and $100 million for Central America has been requested for FY10.[20]
Only about $204 million of that, however, will be earmarked for the Mexican military for the purchase of eight used transport helicopters and two small surveillance aircraft. No weapons are included in the plan.[21][22][23] The bill requires that $73.5 million of the $400 million for Mexico must be used for judicial reform, institution-building, human rights and rule-of-law issues.
The bill specifies that 15% of the funds will be dependent on Mexico making headway in four areas relating to human-rights issues, and on which the U.S. Secretary of State will have to report periodically to Congress.[24][25]
An additional $65 million was granted for the Central American countries (Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and Panama); the House also included Haiti and the Dominican Republic in this bill for Central America, which is a comprehensive public security package that seeks to tackle citizen insecurity in Central America by more effectively addressing criminal gangs, improving information sharing between countries, modernizing and professionalizing the police forces, expanding maritime interdiction capabilities, and reforming the judicial sector in order to restore and strengthen citizens confidence in those institutions.[26]
Much of the funding will never leave the United States. It will go toward the purchase of aircraft, surveillance software, and other goods and services produced by U.S. private defense contractors.
While this request includes equipment and training, it does not involve any cash transfers or money to be provided directly to the Government of Mexico or its private contractors.
According to U.S. State Department officials, 59% of the proposed assistance will go to civil agencies responsible for law enforcement, and 41% to operational costs for the Mexican Army and Mexican Navy. While the initial cost for equipment and hardware that the military required is high, it is expected that future budget requests will focus increasingly on training and assistance to civil agencies.
As of November 2009, the U.S. has delivered about $214 million of the pledged $1.6 billion.[27]
It’s past time.
The federales are scared stiff their lavish luxury lifestyles fueled by our tax dollars are going to be curtailed......AS WELL THEY SHOULD.
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REALITY CHECK The billions in remittances sent back home by Mexican citizens on US soil is dirty money.....and for sure Mexico is getting fees to allow 140 assorted countries to gather at the border to creep into the US and board our gravy train. Remittances pouring into Mexico from its citizens here illegally cashing multiple govt checks using several identities should be prosecuted for ID theft, wire fraud, govt fraud, and tax evasion.
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Mexicans are here illegally, riding the US gravy train under several identities....cashing multiple US govt checks, sucking up freebies at our schools, hospitals and welfare systems.
And they are calculatedly undermining US ntl security as agents of the Mexican govt. READ ON.
ACCORDING TO THE GOVERNMENT OF MEXICO
IN A SWORN AFFIDAVIT TO A US COURT, MEXICO SWORE
THAT MEXICANS ON US SOIL ARE MEXICAN CITIZENS.
A sworn affidavit by Mexico/s Consul General to a Texas court asserts that Mexico/s official govt policy is to encourage its poor people to migrate here illegally in order to access our generous welfare system...... declaring that Mexico is responsible to protect its nationals wherever they may be residing.
A footnote states that Mexican nationality is granted to children born abroad of a Mexican born parent. IOW, anchor babies born in the US retain parents Mexican nationality.
The Mexican consul/s sworn testimony asserts that: "My responsibilities in this position include protecting the rights and promoting the interests of my fellow Mexican nationals, and, that the main responsibility of consulates is to provide services, assistance, and protection to Mexican nationals abroad."
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NOTE This also wipes out anchor babies......and DHS Secy, Jeh Johnson and Obama who say illegals have essentially "become American" b/c they go to school, have licenses to drive, and can even practice law in California.
I worked with a Mexican lady who was very blanco. She was our admin.
She said Mexico is very racist and has a strict racial hierarchy, and a brown person would never, ever, be hired for an office job in Mexico over a whiter person, and brown mestizos are not even considered for any type of white collar office jobs, even as admins.
One reason for the mass emigration is to escape the entrenched racism of that society. Clue: How many blanco Mexicans have you seen sneaking over the border? Answer: none, because their lives are a lot better than their mestizo countrymen - there is no impetus for them to leave.
Make no mistake - Mexico is FAR more racist than America, despite the marketing by the MSM.
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